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Don't you think that there is too many pictures here and that make the load of the page longer to show ? --Chmouel Boudjnah 23:53, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hm. Perhaps I should move some of the pix to a seperate page, or have them as links rather than inlined? What do others think? -- Infrogmation 00:00, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I changed it a bit. What do you think? Dori | Talk 00:04, Feb 15, 2004 (UTC)

Okay by me EXCEPT for that I would much like the front and back photos of the Wildman costume to appear next to each other. -- Infrogmation 00:24, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

All right... How's it look now? -- Infrogmation 00:28, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think the solution of moving the pictures to an other page would be the best. 2 pictures should be enough for small article the other can be moved to a new page ? -- Chmouel Boudjnah 01:25, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Following Dori's suggestion, most of the pix are smaller thumbnails now. Does thant not load faster for you? Other opinions? I know that's more illustrations than are usual in an article this size, but it being a fairly visual tradition I thought it appropriate. If other folks think I should take out some of the photos, I will. Also, of course, if someone else has better Mardi Gras Indian photos than mine they'd like to share, those would be welcome too. -- Infrogmation 04:43, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the gallery to relink the thumbs, the layout looks much better —I have added the front of the "Wildman" costume to it, so it's back with its partner. Have improved the layout further by adding section headings to the text. redcountess 21:21, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

Most of the pix now moved to Wikimedia Commons. -- Infrogmation 02:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shouldn't there be a section devoted to the musical aspects of the Mardi Gras Indians?

Over the years, a number of recordings of various Mardi Gras Indian tribes (recorded both in the streets of New Orleans as well as studio recordings) have been made widely available. while i am familiar enough with some of the releases to begin a list of recordings, i think that a more musicological slash ethnomusicological approach to the subject (or at least as an introduction to a list of recordings) should be part of this article, as music is as much a part of the Mardi Gras Indian tribes as are their costumes.

Here is a brief list of recordings with which i would begin -- as far as i am aware, with the exception of the first Wild Magnolias recording, Handa Wanda, which is important to list because it is the first commercially recorded documentation of a Mardi Gras Indian tribe -- all of the following are still in print:

The Wild Magnolias: Handa Wanda (1970)
The Wild Tchoupitoulas: The Wild Tchoupitoulas (Island Records, 1976/re-released on Mango, 1991)
The Golden Eagles: Lightning & Thunder: Recorded Live at the H&R Bar in New Orleans (Rounder Records, 1988)
Bo Dollis and The Wild Magnolias: I'm Back at Carnival Time (Rounder Records, 1990)
Mardi Gras Indians Super Sunday Showdown! (featuring the Wild Magnolias and the Golden Eagles with guest appearances by the Rebirth Brass Band on 2 tracks) (Rounder Records, 1992)
Bo Dollis featuring The Wild Magnolias (with guest appearances by Monk Boudreaux and Doctor John): 1313 Hoodoo Street (also released as World Wide Hoodoo) (Aim Records, 1996)
Bo Dollis and The Wild Magnolias: Thirty Years and Still Wild (Aim Records, 2002)
Big Chief Monk Boudreaux and the Golden Eagles: Mr. Stranger Man (Shanachie Records, 2003)

While i am not aware of any commercially released recordings by any of the other 38-odd tribes, including: The Black Eagles, The Golden Star Hunters, Creole Wild West, and The Creole Osceolas, to name but a few, i am sure that there are compilations and "field-recordings" of the Folkways type, as well as locally-produced and distrubuted recordings not widely available outside of New orleans (except, one hopes, over the web).

Isn't there also a need for entries on such major figures as Bo Dollis (leader of the Wild Magnolias) and Monk Boudreaux (leader of the Golden Eagles)?

oedipus 17:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Tribes of the Mardi Gras Indian Nation

While i am not sure if this is a definitive list of the currently active Mardi Gras Indian tribes, it is a pretty definitive listing from a pretty definitive and reputable site, Mardi Gras Digest. Alternately, one could always add an external link to the Tribes of the Mardi Gras Indian Nation page slash sub-site at Mardi Gras Digest, and for now (Mardi Gras, 2006), that is what i think i will do. For the record, here is the list of tribes i have been able to compile so far: