Talk:Marco Polo Bridge Incident

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Not to claim that the Japanese were innocents here, but this article seems a little unbalanced. For instance, there's no mention of the fact that before Japan invaded the city, Chinese took the initiative and try to bomb Japanese battleships in a river near Shanghai. They missed, but according to the book I have (Reischauer) that was the catalyst that started the fighting. I don't know how to integrate that though. Any thoughts? Lepidoptera


Shall we moved the page to Marco Polo Bridge Incident since this title yields more pages on Google including one on EB? User:kt2


The Song Zheyuan article mentions the 24th army, and not the 29th army, as this article does. Which one is correct? olivier 08:47 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)


This article needs quite a bit of cleaning up. --Jiang


The "Background" section uses both "Manchukuo" and "Manzhouguo". The latter redirects to the former. Which should be used? 209.11.79.83 14:31, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Twice the Japanese and Nationalist armies reached agreement and started to withdraw from contact, twice there were shootings happenned to bring the two sides back. Japanese started to attack the Wanpin town after the second shooting from Longwang temple, when the lost soldier was already found.

There was no large scale movement or concentration of either the Japanese or the Nationalist forces before the incident. Both the Tokyo and Nanking governments were caught in surprise. The Chinese Communist responded very quickly when the incident was still on its way to develop into a war.

Troops outside Beijing, the capital of consecutive Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties of China, and "the Tokyo government was caught in surprise." How convincing. You had already been stepping on my threshold with a gun and you say the full invasion all started with an incident over the doorknob. Heavens.--221.217.104.159 7 July 2005 20:07 (UTC)

Why doesn't the marco polo bridge have its own article? it seems to be significant enough for one.. 68.145.141.4 22:38, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Not really... This bridge was only a site of a sparking battle. Oyo321 19:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

The bridge is really old and that if nothing else should make it notable for one. -- Миборовский 20:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)



Lukouchiao Incident should be merged I think particularly as it is the Japanese version and provides the evidence of the "shootings" that are the basis for the third party conspiracy theory.Asiaticus 05:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Definitely merge with this article. -- Миборовский 05:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assesment

I suggest a merge,for these two titles are regarding the same incident. a more appropriate way is to put Lu-Gou Qiao(Lu Gou Bridge,also known as Marco Polo Bridge) incident.