Talk:Maraghar Massacre

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[edit] POV

The entire article is provided by a single source, a source that is a free self created website from geocities and a very POV to: http://www.geocities.com/master8885/index.html which is in association with: http://www.cilicia.com/Convenience.htm Just go through both sites a bit you will find all kinds of absurt statements. These sources are not reliable and highly POV, either this article should contain reliable sources or be deleted as unsourced. Baku87 12:41, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I've fixed up the article a bit, I included a second reference and changed the original reference to the article being hosted on Christianity Today, a non-geocities site. I know that Caroline Cox is a contentious figure, so I made it clear that I was referring to her version of the events. However, she isn't the only person who wrote about it, so those references are given as well. -- Augustgrahl 14:19, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
Yeah thats much better but the new first source remains most POV NKR-owned site, something should be done about this. Baku87 18:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

First reference to: http://www.nkrusa.org/nk_conflict/ethnic_cleansing_campaigns.shtml#maragha - This is of course not acceptable for clear and obvious reasons, and is removed per discussion with admin Francis Tyers. Likewise, the Forth reference to "Ethnic Cleansing in Progress, War in Nagorno Karabakh, by Caroline Cox and John Eibner, Institute for Religious Minorities in the Islamic World, Zurich, London, Washington, 1993" -- a very long quote from a well-known pro-Armenian Baroness Cox. At very least the quote should be trimmed, as it's undue weight. --adil 21:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Baroness Cox is a frequent visitor to Armenia and occupied territories of Azerbaijan, such as Nagorno-Karabakh, Lachin, etc. There is no need to reference such a basic fact, but if one insists, sure, here it goes: [1] "paid tribute to guest of honor Baroness Caroline Cox, and the "dedicated group of philanthropists for their continuous support of Armenia Fund USA projects in the last decade."", and "paid tribute to Baroness Cox as a "true Armenian nationalist who would give her life for Armenia and Karabakh."" and "Baroness Caroline Cox, a member of the British House of Lords, a leader in Christian Solidarity, and an Honorary Citizen of Karabakh, has made more than 60 humanitarian trips to Karabakh" (note, she made 60 trips at the 2003 count).

Here's another one from Ambassador of Armenia in USA Arman Kirakossian [2]: "First, I want to thank Baroness Cox on behalf of the President and the people of Armenia. They say ‘a friend in need is a friend indeed,’ and Lady Cox has supported and inspired the Armenian people in Artsakh from the very beginning of their struggle." So Baroness Cox is complete POV and should be identified as such. --adil 23:15, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I reverted your edits on the page, allegedly is POV, second, the quote is fine and you shouldn't remove bits of it. Artaxiad 01:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
Quote is too long and gives undue weight to it, as the source is POV as shown above. Saying "allegedly" is not POV, that's actually NPOV. --adil 07:23, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
That's one opinion.--Ευπάτωρ Talk!! 15:21, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
She is entitled to that opinion, that's why no one is removing it, but it must abide by Wikipedia rules. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AdilBaguirov (talkcontribs) 05:18, 27 March 2007 (UTC).