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[edit] Date and Provenance of Manuscript?
According to the Bibliotheque National catalog (Mandragore), the date of manuscript Arabe 1489 is 16th century (ca. 1560) and the place of origin is unknown. --SteveMcCluskey 13:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
Further digging gives the title of this illustration as "muhammad interdisant l'intercalation" which my rusty French makes Mohammed prohibits intercalation, so it's relevant to discussions of the Muslim calendar. --SteveMcCluskey 13:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Caption for image
The caption of this image at Depictions of Muhammad states:
- Ilustration portraying Muhammad preaching to his early followers.
However, the caption on the image page reads:
- illustration depicting Muhammad prohibiting the intercalation of the calendar.
According to Islamic calendar#Forbidding intercalary months:
- In the ninth year after the Hijra, Allah revealed the prohibition of the intercalary month.
and
- This prohibition was repeated by Muhammad during his last sermon on Mount Arafat which was delivered during his farewell pilgrimage to Mecca on 9 Dhu al-Hijja AH 10
These two captions have the appearance of contradicting each other. I am adding a fact tag, with the hopes that either a given intepretation is definitively established, or the text changed to to illustration "possibly" depicting... --BostonMA talk 10:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- They really don't contradict each other beyond the use of the word "early;" prohibiting the intercalation of the calendar is just as much preaching as any other activity. The only question is whether it occurred during the Hijra or during the last sermon on Mt. Arafat. Captainktainer * Talk 16:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
- The caption is based on the description of the illustration in the Bibliotheque Nationale manuscript catalog Mandragore, which describes it as "muhammad interdisant l'intercalation". We have an authoritative source describing the image based on the text in the manuscript in which the image appears (al-Bîrûnî, al-âthâr al-bâqiya, Vestiges of the Past). That is the historical text we should be considering, but at the moment, there is no inconsistency here. --SteveMcCluskey 13:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Licensing template removals
Several times [1] [2] users have removed the PD-Art licensing template from this image. I have twice reverted to restore the template. Please explain your reason for these removals. --SteveMcCluskey 13:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Happened again. Reverted. Azate 20:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)