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The source for the copyvio is [1]. Meelar 05:05, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)

I think someone should delete the bit about Dave Shankle playing in the band Chicago, as this never happened. - Paulo

what is the source for the loudest band record? I checked the guinness website and didn't find them listed, but I couldn't find a loudest band listing either...Misfit 06:03, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

well as far as I know, you need to ask for a independent observer from Guinness. They have just played it and probably sound technician observed and measured it. They are just loud, I don't think they have any interest in making it official Guinness Record. See the show... --Jack in the box 22:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps then the claim "...the band entered the records..." should be reworded. What records? and kept by who? 203.132.66.236 11:37, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

They were in the guiness book of world records for quite a few years, however guiness decided to stop using the record in their books, because of the danger to people's hearing, therefore there will never be anybody that breaks ther record. - Paulo

I'm pretty sure it's not Christopher Lee narrating on the recent single "King of Kings" but rather Joey DeMaio with some effects on his voice. Edwardc 14:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

I saw them the year they got the Loudest Band title but at a different venue . I was at the Apollo Manchester stood at the front right opposite a massive tower of Speakers !!!! My ears rang for a week or so & it was about 22 years or so ago on the 'Sign of the Hammer' tour '84 I think. Now it may be nothing but then it was something else.-FRANK 20 Oct 2006

As mentioned in the Italian version of the article, Rhino's real name is Kenny Earl Edwards. Iod 01:58, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Fancruft? 2 "Satanic" lyrical influences? 3 Information Procedence 4 Discography Cleanup 5 Band logo 6 style 7 True Metal 8 Revelation (Death's Angel) 9 Drums of Doom 10 Blow your speakers 11 Requested move to Manowar 12 Requested move 12.1 Survey 12.2 Discussion 13 Petition 14 True Metal 15 Gods of war and tour dates 16 Cleaned up biography part 17 Orson Welles?

[edit] Fancruft?

"Following this, Manowar joined a new label, signing their contracts in blood."

"The second album Into Glory Ride was the first to feature Scott Columbus on drums. Because of his viciousness behind the drums, standard kits simply collapsed. Custom stainless steel kits had to be built just for him."

This sounds ludicrous to me. At best, if it's actually true then it's worded poorly... 203.132.66.236 11:41, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Maybe you should ask the guy who makes the drums for him, his name is Dawk Stillwell, you can speak to him via his website. www.dawksound.com - paulo

POV, yes. You may modify it, if you want to. I doubt anybody will complain. --Sn0wflake 19:47, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Regarding signing their contracts in blood, here is a url pointing to some scans from Kerrang! 47 : http://www.robhalford.com/quorum/showthread.php?threadid=55133 Edwardc 14:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

"Manowar is the only band allowed to play the drums of doom"??!? Huh? C Ruth 13:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC) I agree. What are the Drums of Doom? I have vague recollections of seeing a reference to these on the notes to a Manowar album (probably Fighting the World) but what exactly are they?81.86.69.103 12:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Satanic" lyrical influences?

Some perceive Manowar to be "satanic" in lyrical orientation. The vast majority of their lyrics are, of course, "sword and sorcery," though many of the lyrics on their first album were about Vietnam.

The only overtly "satanic" songs I can recall to memory are "Bridge Of Death" and "The Demon's Whip". I remember a 1984 Kerrang! interview with Joey DeMaio where he said that "Bridge of Death" is "the ultimate Satanic song...it goes one step beyond Venom and Mercyful Fate...hopefully they'll now top that and force us to come up with something even more stunning!"

I'm assuming that these lyrics are just for "shock value"...such an obviously imaginative band is capable of far more than tired satanic dreck.--MarshallStack 04:29, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Information Procedence

one of the band's performances was measured at 129.5 decibels.

Is this correct? This number is above the Threshold of pain.

[edit] Discography Cleanup

I suggest that someone should clean up the discography and make separate lists for full length albums, EPs and DVDs. --IronChris 17:04, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I broke it down into a few categories and added some missing entries as well. Iod 01:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Band logo

someone can fix the band logo, and make it transparent?? --Neo139 16:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] style

just heavy metal or power metal too? they certainly have power metal themes TheKaplan 07:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC) They are clearly Heavy Metal (See True Metal), in the last album "Warriors of the World" they have a litle Power Metal influence because Joey DeMaio is the manager of Rhapsody, so they got influenced, like Rhapsody got Influenced in "Power of the Dragonflame" (the heaviest rhapsody album) because of this union. But they are still Heavy Metal, True fucking Heavy Metal. --Neo139 20:23, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Manowar under influence of Rhapsody?!Hah.Come on you must be kidding.And about this style discussions: Manowar make "heavy metal" no need to be more spesific than this.because they always identify themselves as the pioneers of heavy metal.--Fenasi Kerim 20:48, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Just listen de EP Son of Odins and you will know what im talking about, Manowar is now symphonic heavy metal--190.16.168.102 03:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] True Metal

We should merge True Metal article with this article. --Neo139 20:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah certainly. --Fenasi Kerim 20:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

We should make a new article about true metal. Cause it's mostly being used by those elitist assholes you can find at most metal forums. Theunknown42 03:37, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

In regards of what Manowar think of Black and death metal bands, Demaio said: I like all extreme metal, I like all death metal, I like black metal, I like all of that. As long as it's from the heart and it's pure and it's heavy, it's good. I don't like any of this nu metal shit, it's just complete shit.

This was from an interview in 2004 on the Official Dutch Manowar website http://home.wxs.nl/~verdoore/index4.htm

[edit] Revelation (Death's Angel)

I don't think we should merge this article with the Revelation (Death's Angel) article. Its a stub article song i know, but someone will expand it later. --Neo139 05:07, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Drums of Doom

Manowar is the only band allowed to play the "Drums of Doom". ("biography", third paragraph) This sounds pretty cryptic to me - what does it mean? What are the "Drums of Doom"? What means "allowed" in this connection? -- marilyn.hanson 09:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blow your speakers

I watched a vid at VH1 that clearly said:
Manowar
Blow your speakers

I am not a fan of heavy metal, so i kindly ask somebody smarter in this area to help about this question. West Brom 4ever 19:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC) Yes, that's a song from Manowar--190.16.168.102 01:47, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move to Manowar

[edit] Petition

On the 27th of November two Manowar fans from the UK began a petition to get the band to tour the UK again. After 24 hours over 180 signatures have already been collected. UK Manowar fans please take a second to sign the petition and bring the band back to the country that gave them their first break! The petition can be found here http://www.petitiononline.com/man0war1/petition.html

Cheers to everyone who signs - keep the dream alive! \m/

[edit] True Metal

Shouldn't there be a separate article for "True Metal"? The section in this article concerns mostly the band's view of the term. However, this term is used by many other people and I think it has sufficient meaning to have its own separate article. I'm thinking probably keeping the section here and putting some little note saying: "See also: True Metal" or "Main Article: True Metal". What do you people think? --Zouavman Le Zouave 10:32, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I think it's gonna be tough to make an article called "true metal" and keep it neutral... I mean, true metal doesn't exist, you can't make a "list of true metal bands". It'll just be something like "Manowar describes true metal as...", or "Cannibal Corpse describes ture metal as...". Then what'll happen is that a load of unregistered users will add comments like "death to false metal", the article will be nominated AFD and will be deleted on the grounds that it is biased and a non notable term.

Anyway, if you want to put it to the test go ahead, but I seriously doubt that it'll survive AFD. I for one will vote for its deletion, unless you can come up with a really great article with plenty of material that I don't know about.

On a different note, it's a bit crazy that true metal redirects to Manowar... I know they like to use that term, but still, isn't that a form of POV? IronChris | (talk) 15:53, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

A separate article about True Metal would only be warranted if you have a source to cite; Wikipedia doesn't do original research. --Piet Delport 15:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, you have a point... It was by typing "True Metal" in the search bar that I found the Manowar article, and at first I found it kind of weird. Anyways, thanks for the feedback ^^ --Zouavman Le Zouave 17:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd say having true metal point to Manowar is fine, since they created the term, really. The only "correct" view of the term is really simply the way they described it, since DeMaio pretty much coined it. As someone else said, the term on a separate page would just attract POV. And it did exist before, and was redirected to here anyway. --Ryouga 00:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gods of war and tour dates

Hello !

This is my first wiki contribution so if I did anything wrong plz tell me.Also my english kinda suck so please correct any mistakes that I might have made.I added to the article some info about gods of war(which I am gonna change after the album is finally released) and i have also added the current tour dates !!! Jberedim 19:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleaned up biography part

The biography part contained a lot of outdated information on the next album. Since it is already out, I removed that information and replaced it with a link on the new album. I believe that the removal of other information is no loss, since both the EP and the DVD that were mentioned there before are mentioned in the discography. Funny fact: The album was already listed in the discography, but it seems no one was willing to remove two full paragraphs and leave only one sentence. Call it practicing to be bold. Or revert it. But I think the information (can still be found in [2])I removed might better be placed on the Gods of War page, in case someone wants to keep it. Tierlieb 20:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Orson Welles?

Anyone know how on earth Manowar got Orson Welles to appear on their album? 04:46, 22 March 2007 (UTC)