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Introduction - Include some summarized and rephrased content from the 'reception' and 'controversy' sections. Put the 'plot', 'gangs', and 'characters' section as subsections in one 'Synopsis' section. Delete the section about weapons. Some trivia need explaining. The first paragraph of controversy needs references. Reception should have controversy combined as a sub-section. Gameplay needs internal links. Ensure all references have publisher/date accessed/title etc

Contents 1 Michael Moore 2 This seems a bit unnecessary 3 Pictures? 4 GTA Spinoff? 5 why did the pics i uploaded get aken off 6 Quotes section? 7 Trivia 8 Los Albos 9 Vinewood Vs. Hollywood 10 Original Research and Speculation 11 Microphone Controlled? 12 WP:CVG Assessment 13 What are ye on about?? 14 Categories 15 Controversy 16 Proposal: Project Manhunt link 17 Removed some links

[edit] Michael Moore

Stp removing the Michael Moore trivia bit. It's obvious to anyone with eyes that Starkweater is a Michael Moore insult. Stop being naother bonehead community that controls the info. Or go screw yourself, I don't care. - 206.162.192.39 06:39, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

No, it's not obvious to anyone with eyes that starkweather is a Michael Moore insult, as he looks more like Steven Speilberg to me, and I most certainly possess eyes. I think. Aren't you glad I restored your vandalized comment? Brother Dave Thompson 4:33, 23 april 2006 (PST)

Are you totally off your tits? The only similarities between Starkweather and Michael Moore are a) They're both directors (well sort of) and b) they're both obese - which is probably the case with two thirds of US directors anyway. - 81.178.102.118 15:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

So because they are both obeese and they both direct films there is a link? Uhh, not quite. Moore makes documentaries, the Director makes snuff films. No connection other then vague physical simliarities. And by the way, WP:PA. Let's try to be civilized, shall we? --Chewbacca1010 23:03, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

No, I was implying that them being obese directors was the only similarity between them and thus no real link at all - as you said only a vague (and most likely unintentional) simularity. It would be easier to be civil on Wikipedia if people weren't so incredibly obtuse and of such low intelligence. - 85.210.50.135 06:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I was replying to the original guy. Chewbacca1010 00:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This seems a bit unnecessary

In the following paragraph in the Controversy section, one would think the article is about a different game: "This "implied-violence" animation contrasts with the style of other games, such as Soldier of Fortune II, which boasted 36 "gore-zones." In these games, the graphical representation of the body and the depiction of wounds are accurately portrayed on-screen. For instance, in Soldier of Fortune II, it is possible to "pistol whip" and dismember a female maid, mutilating her entire torso to the point where one may choose to remove her jaw to reveal her brain. Soldier of Fortune II is not the only game with this kind of violent on-screen representation, as many war-simulators have comparable graphics. However, Soldier of Fortune II, and other simulation First Person Shooters, seem to evade as much media attention as Manhunt did." It just seems to me like most of this should be cut out. Blinutne 21:08, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pictures?

Do you think we should put up pictures of all the gangs/police units in the game like we did for the Grand Theft Auto gang article?

[edit] GTA Spinoff?

That's a little extraneous, isn't it? They're both made by the same company, and Rockstar is known for their self-referential-ism, but I don't think it counts as a spin-off.

Fully agreed: Manhunt has nothing to do with GTA. Geez... Removing. Ashanthalas 12:14, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Actually, it does count as a spin-off since this film is set in Carcer City, a location first mentioned in GTA3, a game that was made two years before Manhunt. The Wookieepedian 20:12, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] why did the pics i uploaded get aken off

• i uploaded pics of cash of the director but they got taken off why did that happen??~ moe 13:37, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quotes section?

Is this neccesary? Notable? Is it OK if I remove it? Reignbow 23:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

My suggestion is to break it off into a separate article. Or someone can move it to WQ. 68.100.5.79 04:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

"However, as Cash is on the run and probably lacking in any personal funds, this is logical." This is opinion so I removed it. As well, the whole bit about the "Liberty City Survivor" is also WP:OR since there is no citation, so I also removed it. If you can find some quote somewhere from the game developers hat says otherwise, feel free to throw it back in.Chewbacca1010 22:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Los Albos

In the manuel it says the Innocenz are from there... Is this supposed to be a area in Carcer City, or another city in GTA Land? does anyone know? --Mista-X 21:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vinewood Vs. Hollywood

I flipped through the manuel, and couldn't find reference to either. Can anyone confirm whether Starkwether is refered to as a Hollywood or Vinewood director? --Mista-X 20:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

You sure? I could have sworn it says something about an 'incident' forcing him to leave Hollywood in a hurry. I'll have a checky myself tonight (mostly coz I want to know for myself!) The Kinslayer 09:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Original Research and Speculation

This page has quite a bit of both, so I'm going to do some deleting. Geoff B 12:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Microphone Controlled?

This article is in the Category:Microphone-controlled computer games although this is never mentioned in the article. Anyone have any confirmation either way?

88.105.157.152 15:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

The game does feature the option to use the microphone to make sound in the game as a means to distract enemies. So yes, it is Microphone Controlled, although I think it uses the term 'Controlled' in the loosest possible way. The Kinslayer 15:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WP:CVG Assessment

Following a request for assessment, I read the article, and below I will write down what could be improved. Note: I did not change the rating, because it's simply still B-class, and hardly that - if it wasn't already B, I would have assessed it at Start, probably.

• The introduction is too short and ambiguous. At the very least, include some (summarized and rephrased) content from the 'reception' and 'controvery' sections.
• The article needs structure - I suggest borrowing it from the FA Halo: Combat Evolved. Put the 'plot', 'gangs', and 'characters' section as subsections in one 'Synopsis' section, and delete the section about weapons: as with every game article, a list of units and weapons is not something to put in an encyclopaedia article. (Note that Halo has no list of such!) A few short sentences about the general type of weapons available in 'gameplay' will do - like if one will be using Katana's or Antigravity Beams. There are not enough weapons for a seperate 'list of weapons...' article.
• Some trivia need explaining, because I didn't get why some of them were in that list. Be aware that not everyone reads the entire article, or use Ctrl+F to find something they're looking for.
• The first paragraph of controversy needs references.
• Reception needs expansion.
• Gameplay needs internal links.

--User:Krator (t c) 22:12, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I understand what to address for every point here except the trivia point, what exactly do you think needs explaining clearer? As far as I can tell only the 'Final Cut' one needs explaining, as it doesn't explain the significance of the name being used in Bully. The Kinslayer 11:33, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What are ye on about??

whoever put up the piece that says manhunt is the only game to get an 18+ rating in ireland is slow what about gta?? every one of them games got an 18+ rating and the warriors got one too and theres loads of others before and since look at dead and rising gears of wars their just two on the xbox360 and the punisher on the ps2 also got 18's because of the brutal way you could mutilate people even after they were dead and because of the torture scenes i think ill go do some deleting —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 159.134.54.184 (talk) 20:49, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Categories

I do believe this game may fit in Category:Horror video games and Category:Survival horror games, but I'm not sure as I've never played it.--Empire Earth 15:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

It's hard to call, I can't say I've ever read it being described as such in any of it's reviews, but if you can find it being called so by a reliable source, I don't see why we shouldn;t put the cats in. The Kinslayer 15:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

I cleaned up the controversy section a bit, made it a bulleted list with an item for each country.

Reading the quoted source for the situation in New Zealand, the claim that mere possession is punishable with up to ten years in jail does not hold. According to section 131 of the quoted law, possession is an offence, but punishable only with a $2000 fine for individuals. The ten years are mentioned in section 124, which however refers only to acts according to section 123, which are, in short, supply, distribution, display, or exhibition to any other person, or possession for said purpose. This is a bit confusing, so I have reduced the sentence to "Possession is an offence" and linked section 131 as source. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Graf Bobby (talk • contribs) 13:15, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Proposal: Project Manhunt link

There seems to be a kind of slow edit war going on about the link to Project Manhunt[1] in the External links section, so maybe we can reach a consense here. I propose that the link should be there. It is a useful site and fulfills the criteria of WP:EL, What should be linked, 3 and 4. — Graf Bobby 10:48, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose - Lets take each of the 2 points in turn:

3. This fails to apply to Project Manhunt. As a fan site, it cannot by any stretch of the imagination be considered Neutral.
4. I have yet to see any proof of meaningful content that Project Manhunt is able to provide that isn't already in this article.

In addition, the link fails on the following points of What Not To Link (also on WP:EL:
1. Any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article.
3. Links mainly intended to promote a website.

I have seen no assertion as to why the site should be included beyond 'Go on, it's a fan site!' Indeed, the anonymous IP who continually re-added the link failed to provide even one edit summary as to why the link was being included. The Kinslayer 10:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality—in connection with a video game? Where's the controversy here? If it's bugs and gameplay issues, then fansites are definitely more neutral than devopers and publishers, whose sites seem to be linked routinely from Wikipedia. As for the meaningful content, do interviews with developers not count[2]? That's something the article definitely would not contain if it became a featured article.—As for the way the site keeps getting added, I understand that it is annoying, but it is not really relevant for the quality of the link itself. — Graf Bobby 11:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed some links

This is a bit too long for an edit summary, so I'll put it here:

• Valiant Video Enterprises is a members-only page.
• Banning of Manhunt (OLFC) is already a footnote above.
• IMDB doesn't have any info that MobyGames doesn't have as well.
• The dark side has no relevant info at all.

Graf Bobby 14:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Try again. Valiant Video Enterprises is an official viral website set up by R* as an advert for the game. 'Members only' is only amisnomer, you can't register with the site, only sign in as a guest.

The rest I agree with the other 3 being removed though.though. The Kinslayer 14:57, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes. Got in without any problem. Not that there's any info to speak of on that site though. — Graf Bobby 15:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

True, but I'm sure a little paragraph about it could be worked into the article somewhere, I seem to recall the GTA articles have similar mentions of the various websites that were created for those games by R*. The Kinslayer 15:08, 3 April 2007 (UTC)