Talk:Mandy Moore

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[edit] Featured Article status

April 4, 2007. The day Wikipedia jumped the shark. — LoserTalent (talk • contribs).

haha. Featured Articles are well written and show wikipedia article guidelines -- not because everyone likes the topics featured. MrMacManTalk 00:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, I see a shark that's been conspicuously laid at the feet of the main page. I'm not sure if the ramp next to it implies anything --but I dunno... --Bobak 00:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Does Jimbo Wales waterski? Or does it count if we dig a tunnel under the servers, fill it with water, and have the shark swim through it in an arcing motion? --LuigiManiac 00:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
OMG this is, like, totally HAWT! So cool, like whateva ur all hatas, Mandy is the greatest eva i luv u!
Seriously, this is totally unexpected, considering the usual subjects of FAs, although what better motivator than devotion to teenage idols? A pat on the back to the editors that got this article this far (I've seen plenty of articles got de-FA'ed, demonstrating just how hard it is to get up to snuff these days). But I've noticed that FAs are sometimes timed to somehow coincide with important dates of the article, so they probably should've saved this for April 10. Kelvinc 01:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I don't mean anything by it. Wikipedia won't jump the shark just because it includes something like this as Article of The Day. I don't hate it, I just thought of that when I read the talk page. --LuigiManiac 02:18, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I agree with Kelvinc: Saving it for April 10; It should be "Today's featured article" on Mandy's birthday. Haseo9999 02:25, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Well what's done is done. I'm just a bit surprised that they didn't choose that date: I actually think it's not that great of an idea to do coincidences like that. It distracts from the "FAness" and makes it seem like the FA is given because it's an anniversary. Kelvinc 03:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
rofl Nemobius 08:40, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
You must not have been here long, we've had more irrelevant FAs than this. (And yes, I know "relevance" isn't a criterion for FAs, but...) 71.62.51.172 15:55, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Irrelevant, yes it's not the first, but rarely so pandering to the common masses.  ;) Kelvinc 22:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, this article's 24 hours are now up, and I'm happy to see that the criticism it got seems mostly to be based on the subject matter, which is fine by me. I'm fairly happy with the way it was handled during its "Featured day". Mad Jack 01:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Depression

I was surprised to see nothing whatsoever about Moore's disclosure of clinical depression. Figured it'd be under Personal Life, but I guess not.... Fifty7 01:50, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Today's featured article of April 4 2007

Congratulations! It has taken a long time and hard work to get on today's featured article of April 4 2007. Considering that this article was first started on 23:59, November 13, 2003, I think our hard work has paid off! Haseo9999 01:56, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Looks like someone beat me to saying this ^ Haseo9999 01:57, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi.

This is a surfer of Wikipedia. I don't have an account or anything - I just surf articles and make grammar corrections. We are all very appreciative of the community work that goes into Wikipedia.

Organizationally, Wikipedia might work better for the end-user if it were broken into branches at a somewhat higher level that represented the end-user's interests.

Well-written articles like this one might be put under "Entertainment", etc.

For example, if someone were not interested in a category they would be able to exclude it.

Hmm, are you talking about something like Wikipedia:Portals? I don't see how it would be useful to "exclude a category", since you never know when you would need an article on just about any given subject. Your question might be better suited to the Help Desk. \sim Lenoxus " * " 12:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Height

Her height (approx. 5'10") doesn't deserve a brief mention in the article? I've tried adding this information yet it is continually deleted... --172.146.51.78 04:16, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

I was told the wikipedia main editors(not that I know them) like deleting stuff because they think their rank is based on how much stuff they delete lol 66.32.95.206 19:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)yeahhyeahyeah

IMDB is not viewed as a WP:RS because its sources are mainly user contributions so it may not be reliable. MrMacManTalk 04:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Also read this WP:TRIV stop renaming the "personal life" section "personal life and trivia". Thanks. Quadzilla99 04:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Her height is mentioned on her official fansite, Moore of Mandy.com. -- 203.206.116.50 09:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
It's still trivia and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. ShadowHalo 15:04, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
If there was some context or reason to include it like she had a successful basketball career in high school or worked as a runway model or a male lead had to stand on a stool for a scene with her, then her height would be worthy of mentioning because it would be included in a certain relevant context. But as you were including it was just random information which is trivia. Quadzilla99 11:02, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dollar Symbol linked to United States Dollar page

My edit to have the dollar symbol not link to the page for the USD$ was reverted. Seems to me it's not appropriate for the symbol to link to the $USD since it is a symbol used for several countries' currencies. If perhaps you added USD$ to the end of the figure amount and link that to the US Dollar, it may be more appropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.60.147 (talk) 05:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

Indeed, $ is used for many currencies -- but the very point of piped links is that you can be directed the the most pertinent meaning. That's come to be the Wikipedia way of doing things --linking "Smith" to "Jane Smith" doesn't make people think that there are no other famous Smiths. \sim Lenoxus " * " 12:24, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] first paragraph

I think the intro paragraph should be tweaked. Saved, which came out in 2004, shouldn't really be considered one of her "latest" films. Didnt want to actually change anything since this is AotD. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kangaru99 (talk • contribs) 06:31, 4 April 2007 (UTC).

Good point! Changed to "later films" Mad Jack 06:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sales Contradiction

... although So Real was certified platinum in the U.S. in early 2000 and sold nearly one million copies.

I think this line could be confusing; certified platinum is an RIAA statement that she sold AT LEAST one million copies; the statement that she sold fewer than one million is based on the Nielsen SoundScan ratings. The article should either clarify this or pick one or the other. Maxvip 13:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

RIAA certifications are based on shipments to retailers, not sales. Extraordinary Machine 17:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
The above statement is not exactly correct. According to Wiki's own cite on RIAA certification, "The audit is conducted against unit shipments (most often an artists' royalty statement is used), which includes albums sold directly to retailers and one-stops, direct to consumer sales (music clubs & mail order) and other outlets. Shipments that could potentially be returned to the label can not be counted." 210.20.86.85 14:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some comments/suggestions

The lead section is merely one paragraph (plus one short sentence), which is not up to date with current WP guidelines. A medium size article like this should have a lead section of two or three paragraphs, per WP:LEAD. Also, five far-use images for such a rather short text are debatable, I suppose. And using copyright violations (magazine scans) for references in not allowed per WP:EL. -- EnemyOfTheState 20:14, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Competitions

Is the following section that someone just added really notable? It is really a trivial incident that only marginally has something to do with Moore herself; it may be better placed in the "Extraordinary" article, if anywhere. Mad Jack 21:07, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

"In March, 2007 Moore held the Mandy Moore Extraordinary High School Competition on Eventful.[1] The competition allowed high school students to request that Mandy Moore perform in their city. High schools within the cities to show the greatest demand for Moore were made eligible to submit videos demonstrating their "extraordinary" nature. 466 people requested that Moore perform in Cape Girardeau, Missouri, winning the city the top spot in the first phase of the competition.[2]. The video creation contest phase of the competition is currently underway."
I'd like to mention that User:Jedsundwall works for this 'Eventful' company re his [website]. It wasn't very hard because he posted the link on his userpage. MrMacManTalk 21:10, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
I do indeed work for Eventful. If the Wikipedia community does not find my addition to the article relevant, please edit away. I feel that the competition I mentioned is, indeed, remarkable and pioneering, regardless of my affiliation with Eventful. Carry on.--Jedidiah 00:10, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I didn't mean to demean the company you work for or your edits. I just wanted to point out a connection. MrMacManTalk 00:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Thank you—seriously. I'm not the most active Wikipedian, but I highly regard this community. I readily concede that my edits are not relevant to Moore herself, as pointed out by Mad Jack, so no hard feelings here. I'll be much more careful in the future. --Jedidiah 00:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] cup size

anyone know it? i'm sure someone does, she has been with thousands of men. 71.62.10.130 07:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

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