User talk:Malick78

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Hi, thanks for the info:)Malick78 15:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Plymouth Brethren

In regards to the edit summary you left when editing Plymouth Brethren, please see WP:OWN. No one of us has the power to make content decisions. Rather, they are made by the community as a whole. It would be helpful to have a source cited that mentions that these two individuals are Brethren members. (I am not questioning the appropriateness of the listing - just offering advice as to helpful edit summaries.) --BigDT 17:22, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bodkin Adams

  • I'm undecided as to whether Bodkin Adams was guilty in my opinion. I think it would be wrong to suggest he was convicted, he was not in his lifetime and died innocent in the eyes of the law. I appreciate your point but also heard him used as an examply in a debate recently in which they described him as someone who was innocent and wrongly accused. It's a mystery really, but I wouldn't want the article to give the wrong impression.--Couter-revolutionary 13:11, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Hi, while Adams certainly wasn't convicted, that is also a long way from being able to say he was innocent:) If you look at the trial section you'll see what I mean. Maybe it needs some more fleshing out, but from what I've read it seems pretty clear he was guilty. It's also worth noting that the main book I cited came out just last year and was the first book on Adams to have full access to the police archives. These were sealed until 2033 but opened early for said book to be written (according to its foreword). Therefore, while it's early days, I'm sure a consensus will form among scholars that Adams was a) guilty, and b) his trial was prejudiced.

If you feel like continuing this chat, I'll be more than happy:) Malick78 15:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Does the article imply he killed the Duke of Devonshire? Surely not. Why was he attending Lord Devonshire anyway, he practiced in Eastbourne, did he not? Best wishes, --Couter-revolutionary 22:30, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
  • The Devonshires own lots of buildings on Eastbourne's seafront - so they have a strong connection with the town. Whether Adams killed the Duke is beside the point (he may or may not have, he may also have failed to provide proper treatment - something he frequently did with other patients), more important is that if Adams was found guilty re: Mrs Morrell, the police would look into the Duke's death once again (the had looked into it once before but not thoroughly - since they found no will left. They found no will - because they looked for 'Cavendish' in Somerset House rather than '10th Duke of Devonshire' under which the will was lodged! No one had thought of that). Macmillan wouldn't have wanted more attention drawn to his death since the Duke was his brother-in-law - and the link between them was Macmillan's unfaithful wife. Furthermore, the Duke's death was sudden and demanded that the Coroner was notified - Adams failed to do so. Therefore the law was broken by Adams in this case in this respect. Fascinating eh? Malick78 08:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, it is indeed. I was actually unaware they had property in Eastbourne. --Couter-revolutionary 08:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Just remembered, the Duke was also the Grand Master of the English Freemasons. A member of the Plymouth Brethren like Adams would therefore have considered him close to being the devil incarnate. That may have flashed across Adams' mind when giving him treatment... Malick78 16:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Haha, I doubt that would have influenced his actions! Surely His Grace would have refused treatment from the good doctor?--Couter-revolutionary 17:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, what do you think of the page now? Btw, regarding your questioning of whether we can question Adam's guilt (you edited the "Guilty or Innocent?" bit a couple of weeks ago and mentioned it) - I think you can. After all, when people talk of Derek Bentley who was convicted, they question his innocence. Anything can therefore be questioned, as long as there is a valid reason. Do you think the page now presents one? Malick78 17:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Subtlety

I have reverted your edits that reduce the graphic wording. Remember, wikipedia is not censored. However it's very possible that there is a good reason for your edit. If so I apologize, but I would like to hear the reasoning. Hope to hear from you soon. Foolishben 18:28, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

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