User talk:Malcolm Morley

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Hello, Malcolm Morley, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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[edit] Broach and content moves

Hi Malcom and welcome :-)

The preferred method of moving a page's content is to use the move tab (which may or may not be visible with the skin you are using). Small content shuffles are usually okay but a substantial content move needs to have its history go with it. For the same reasons, the articles talk page also needs to go with the move. Broach falls into this category as it has had a long history as metalwork broaching, with many contributors over that time.

For what it's worth, you're not alone with this mistake as it's the first thing I did on starting, and formed part of my introduction to Wikipedia. Anyway, continue on and happy editing. — Graibeard – talk 10:47, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

That's okay, Phroziac has made the necessary page deletion as well as performed the page move, it's now ready to be turned into the disambig. The redirects for the page and talk are now working nicely and it's as though the two articles' pages are one, as you've noticed :). To make the disambig, go to broach and you'll bounce to broach (metalwork), under that page heading there will be a redirect notice stating where you came from, it will look something like:
  • Broach (metalwork)
  • From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
click on that link and you'll be back to the redirect, edit that page and create the disambig. After editing and saving it, go to the special page What links here, which is a link on the side bar (depending on your skin), and follow each link listed there; change those links to point to their respective pages (most should need pointing to the new page) and you're done. This saves the reader from being redirected which, although usually unnoticed, are not neccessary and should be fixed where possible. — Graibeard – talk 22:16, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
Glad to have helped, its looking a lot tidier now. I noticed another of those baruchs had popped up, it was an interesting process trying to find the source of those Indian, broach references; performing a google search for the associated terms eventually led back to - you guessed it, Wikipedia!
Regarding your images (I like images :). If you're going to be uploading a lot of them, consider creating a thumb gallery within your User space. If they capture the interest of other users it helps them (as well as yourself) to quickly view them, rather than navigating through the logs (see mine as an example). Keep up the good work, and see you around the traps (hmm, probably not a good saying to use with a vet.) — Graibeard – talk 00:18, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Age of cattle

I'm cleaning up after a page move and this one is a best guess.

Age of cattle and the link in question is "At six years, the first grinders are beginning to wear, and are on a level with the incisors". Category :Teeth leads me to select Molar (tooth). However there is already a molar link (it needs a {disambig}'n) above it, have they just switched terminology or am I missing something? — Graibeard – talk 11:40, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Benzone

Hi Malcolm. I saw your suggestion for merging Phenylbutazone, Benzone, and Bute (horse) on the Benzone Talk page, and went ahead and carried it out. I hope I put everything together right, but you might want to look over the final result as I'm not familiar with the subject itself. Thanks! Wesley 05:26, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Hi ..

Hello i'm silvestre from valencia spain. Please, you can up your images at proyect commons. For all wikipedia proyec multilingual. Thaks --Silvestre 10:35, 17 November 2005 (UTC) PD:excuse me, i'dont undestant englhis

[edit] Don't be a cow!

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Hi there, I noticed that you changed the article cattle, that the word 'cow' when used for people is usually (derogatorily) directed at women. Where I am from (Australia) this is not true, the slur 'cow' can be used for both men and women. Given the universal nature of wikipedia - I think this fact should be reflected in the article. Would you please consider not reverting? novacatz 09:22, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About Barefoot movement into wikipedia

Well, if you are intersted about barefoot movement, I am "responsable" for the first article on this topic on wiki, after a suggestion to Marjorie Smith (www.barefoothorse.com). She wrote "Barefoot horses" and "Natural horsemanship" in their first version. Then, as wiki works, they begin to evolve, just like living species during evolution.

This to say: I'm doing any effort do get interested, willing experts into wikipedia about horses in general, barefoot horses (a very promising idea, in my opinion) in particular. I have some relation with most of them (Jaime Jackson, Pete Ramey, Marjorie Smith; and with dr Robert Cook too, and his message about biltess ridfing too is very important). I hope, some of them will appreciate the peculiar environment of wiki. I'm working about horses into it.wiki now, and I need good en.wiki articles to translate... My direct contribution to en.wiki will be very marginal (my English is largely insufficient!) --Alex brollo 13:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] About nested links into categories

Thanks for your observation (Horses). I don't like so much Categories - they are both so important and so tricky.. I begin understanding how much wikipedia project is complex.--Alex brollo 05:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Equus

Thanks for your comment on my talk page. I've placed this answer also on the discussion page of the horse Previous name of these animals (tarpan, wild horse & Donkey/Wild Ass) was mainly based on the list of mammals published by Wilson and Reeder in 1993. Their list was based on the code of the International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature (www.iczn.org). Thus the oldest name was used: Equus caballus for the horse and Equus asinus for the Donkey/Ass. These names were first given to the domesticated forms and this had created confusion. However, in 2003 to end the confusion of the names, the Commission ruled that the name for each of the wild species listed in their publication (see reference) is not invalid by virtue of being predated by a name based on a domestic form.

The following names are hereby placed on the Official List of Specific Names in Zoology: (a) africanus Heuglin & Fitzinger, 1866, as published in the binomen Equus africanus (North African wild ass) (Mammalia); (b) ferus Boddaert, 1785, as published in the binomen Equus ferus (Russian wild horse, tarpan) (Mammalia); (c) ...etc....

Website of International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature: http://www.iczn.org The publication (Opinion 2027) can be ordered there for free.

Main reference: International Commission on Zoological Nomenclature. 2003. Opinion 2027 (Case 3010). Usage of 17 specific names based on wild species which are pre-dated by or contemporary with those based on domestic animals (Lepidoptera, Osteichthyes, Mammalia): conserved. Bull.Zool.Nomencl., 60:81-84. Pmaas 21:54, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Zootomy

Regarding Category:Animal anatomy, which, in your professional opinion, is more appropriate or widely used -- "Animal anatomy", "Zoological anatomy", or "Zootomy"? siafu 02:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Use

Zootomy is used very little in the veterinary profession (well I had never even heard of it) or the medical profession (my wife is a doctor and I asked her). I am sure it is also used very little by people without a specialist interest in zoology. I suspect, although I do not know, that it may be widely used amongst zoologists.

Appropriateness

As to which is more appropriate, I think it needs to be part of a much wider discussion about Category:Zootomy and Category:Animal anatomy than a quick "Category for merging" discussion. I think there needs to be a note at the beginning of BOTH category pages linked to one discussion which is left for some time.

--Malcolm Morley 08:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barefoot horses need a moderator

I saw a "NPOV" template on Barefoot horses without any discussion about. Can you follow that article as a moderator? I presume some "flaming" in a few days.--Alex brollo 09:53, 4 January 2006 (UTC)


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[edit] Laminitis needs an expert revision

Can you take a look to Laminitis? I added some "barefoot point of view", but there's some flaming about. Thanks --Alex brollo 10:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laminitis and dr John Stewart

Thanks, I'll do. I take a look to his website; he is really, honestly concerned about laminits, nevertheless it sound strange to me that he only mentioned dr Strasser work (notoriously excellent in her own hands, but very difficult to reproduce) and he didn't mention anything about AANHCP, dr Bowker (an academic vet) studies and new insights about the hoof mechanism and so on, as quoted in the excellent website of Pete Ramey (http://www.hoofrehab.com). Well, when first introducing the "barefoot horse" topic into wiki,I well knew that it wolud be a source of debate (what we see is only its beginning...). I hope to put dr John Stewart into my personal, growing "horse friends network" and to connect him both to wikipedia and to the growing world of barefoot movement. --Alex brollo 22:50, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I e-mailed dr John Steward (his website is really very interesting) and he is a very fast and kid e-mail responder! I ask him if he knows wiki (if not, I'he offered my "support"...) and if he wolud like to be the "laminitis expert". As he knows both traditional and Strasser opinions he could really add something very good to the article!--Alex brollo 18:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Steward's answer

Unluckily, dr Steward told that he can't edit Laminitis page: really too different from his experience and current research so far. I'm waiting his permission to insert the original mail into the talk page of the article.

Nevertheless, I'm very encouraged from his observations and from the content of his excellent website; really the old version of Laminitis deserved a deep edit, as I thought... My edit has been simply too shy. Really, there is a general NPOV problem about horses - so far the current ideas and the scientific evidence, so fighting some "new" research and lots of retained ideas.

I'll edit Laminitis after a thorought study of dr Steward website.--Alex brollo 04:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dr Steward and laminitis

Just to begin, I posted a brief summary of dr.Steward's opinion opinion into Laminitis talk page. Much work to do... :-(--Alex brollo 07:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Laminiitis: dr Steward's opinion posted into the talk page

OK, I posted dr Steward's opinion into Talk:Laminitis. Perhaps a new reputated wikipedian in the future? :-)

I'll edit the article basing on his (and User:Ballista's!) suggestions --Alex brollo 06:23, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Horse hoof

I worked on a new Horse hoof article (there were hundreds of horse-related articles, but none about horse hoof). Take a look, please - it's a very rough one, so far. (mainly in Eglish, I hope...)--Alex brollo 05:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

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