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[edit] Remove "orientation" item

This could lead to a libel case. Just because a man has appeared in an all-male film or a film for the gay market does not mean he is gay or bisexual. It's acting, just like any non-porn actor who has played a gay man but does not identify as such. There has already been a complaint about this that led to takedown of an article. I propose moving the item from the template. Jokestress 03:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

OK, just decided to be bold and take it out myself. This will keep it from displaying on the pages, even if it shows in the code. Jokestress 10:05, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I put it back in. True, a performer appearing in a film targeted toward a gay audience doesn't make him gay or bisexual; however, no one's orientation should be stated without it being verifiable, which would absolve Wikipedia from any libel. In other words, the data tag being there doesn't mean it has to be used; like all of the other tags, the information should only be completed if there are sources to back it up.Chidom talk  02:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penis size

This is a very valid piece of information for adult male performers. It is no less appropriate than is the inclusion of the measurements of a woman's bust. The information is frequently used to promote the work of a particular performer, as a publicity item, or as a "hook" - consider John Holmes or Kevin Dean, for example.Chidom talk  02:46, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shoe size?

Ok I get the penis length, IMDB, etc, but I really don't see the necessity for the 'shoe size' section on here. Quite frankly I don't see why it would matter either, the supposed correlation between a man's penis size and the size of his hands or feet is just an old wives tale. (I believe the Kinsey report disproved it but I'd have to go back and look it up). I can't imagine a porn star putting up on his website 'penis size = 7 1/2 inches' 'shoe size = 12' or whatever, when looking at a porn star I think shoe size would be the hardest thing to verify, unless of course the actor is into feet fetishes, in which case it might be important. Just tossing all this out there. --ImmortalGoddezz 20:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

::::catching the toss:::: I'll take the credit/blame. The shoe size parameter is included in the {{Female adult bio}} template; although I wasn't clear as to why it was there, I figure the data is no less important for males than it is for females. (The thought crossed my mind about foot fetishists, as well, but who knows?)
::::dropping the ball like a good Fluffy ( as in "Drop it, Fluffy!" )Chidom talk  04:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC) (modification:Chidom talk  09:38, 30 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Yet another rewrite

I noticed Jack Hammer (porn actor) was showing the codes {{orientation}} and {{shoe size}}, literally. Then I found Wikipedia:Don't use hiddenStructure which explained this problem. Following its recommendations, I used #if: from m:ParserFunctions, and Template:Female adult bio, which should work better. AnonEMouse (squeak) 19:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Refinement?

Is there a way for the "AFDB entry" to only show up in the bio box if it's populated? It's kind of a pain to remember to take it out when there's no listing there. Thanks.Chidom talk  18:16, 3 October 2006 (UTC)