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Contents 1 Meetup 2 Size 3 West Edmington Mall references removed (Edmington... where's that?) 4 Rollercoaster Accident? 5 Updated info 6 Actual Size 7 Camp Snoopy 8 Source needed. 9 "Formerly contained the restaurants..." 10 Original research 11 Most visited mall innacurate? 12 Dinosaur Walk Museum

[edit] Meetup

October 29, 2006 Wikipedia Minnesota Meetup location

[edit] Size

"Second-largest" prompts the obvious question. Michael Hardy 00:39 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

West Edmonton Mall in Edmonton, Alberta.

Built by the same group of entrepreneurs, I believe. Michael Hardy 02:20 Jan 20, 2003 (UTC)

And it's just had the zoning approved for another expansion, so don't any of you think of trying to beat us, either. :) Bryan

Any reliable intelligence on what that expansion will be? I've heard rumors for years. It's never just "more stores". I've heard that apartments will be attached, so that you can live at the MegaMall. I've also heard that it will have a water park. I'll believe it when I see it with my own eyes. - Eisnel 11:39, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

BTW, to all you Twin Cities folk: Does everyone call it "The MegaMall"? If so, that might be a neat tidbit to include. =o) - Eisnel

Yes, we do call it the Megamall. it's a fairly common turn of phrase. The_Shaggy_One

We do call it the Megamall, that's for sure. But, contrary to the claims of this article, when I say I'm going to the mall, I usually mean Ridgedale. I've found that most people who don't live in the bloomington area (i.e.: those with convienent access to the '-dales', Eden Prarie Center, Nicollet Mall, etc.) avoid MOA for most shopping outings. Lekoman 02:52, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I'll second this. When I was living in Minneapolis, "The Mall" was ambiguous. It usually mean the MOA, but often refered to Rosedale as well. If one was specifically refering to MOA, "Megamall" seemed to be the most common slange. -- Kaszeta 13:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Although "megamall" is still being used by a very few. The new cool slang that is being used is just "MOA". Megamall is just too 90's, by now, everyone in Minnesota knows it's big. And after going to it countless times, the Megamall just doesn't seem to Mega anymore. Therefore, Going to the MOA is a more common term. So to answer your question, no everyone does not call it the megamall. January 2006

• WCCO radio reporters used the term "Megamall" in early January when they reported the renaming of Camp Snoopy. Wahkeenah 05:03, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Reporters may use megamall, but amongst my peers, I agree that moa is used alot more. "Megamall" is too cheesy. Maybe its that generation Y'ers are using moa more, and baby boomers are using "megamall". January 25 2006

• Moa is an extinct bird, which is ironic considering that the Wall Street Journal writer a couple of years referred to the MOA as a "dinosaur". So, do you pronounce it "M-O-A", or do you say "MOW-AH" like the bird? Or like a "New Yawkuh" trying to say "More", as in "Mega"? :) Wahkeenah 07:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I say it as "M-O-A", and most people around here seem to do the same. shaggy 19:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. "Mo-ah" is faster. They could rename their fish petting zoo "MoA's Ark". Wahkeenah 23:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

• That's creative name! Perhaps you should suggest it for their petting area. 29 January 2006

• I think people would still call it M-O-A's Ark. 30 January 30 3006 Mall Lover

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For the phase II concept, I highly doubt they will have a waterpark inside of it. Across the street, the brand new Waterpark of America (not associated with the mall) is being built. The Waterpark of America is also being built with a hotel. Therefore, taking away any chances that the Mall of America will build their own waterpark. February 08 2006 Mineeesota

• Not true. Plans submitted in May 2006 show a water park. See [1] for details. --Steve Peterson 02:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] West Edmington Mall references removed (Edmington... where's that?)

I removed the abundant references to the West Edmington Mall from this page, including two totally unneccasary links to the WE Mall and another page about it. There is absolutely no reason to mention the West Edmington Mall in this article and especially not to the degree it was mentioned on the page before - why should there be more information about that mall here in the first section of this article than about the Mall of America itself - THE SUBJECT. I also removed the totally unrelated information about the Mall of Arabia. Information about those two malls belong on their own pages or in an article about "shopping malls" in general but not on the Mall of America page. It is enough to say that the mall is the biggest in America but not the world without mentioning which malls are bigger or will be bigger when completed.

The problem with American schools is that they don't teach. For future reference E-D-M-O-N-T-O-N is one of Canada's largest cities (Canada is the country North of America) and the capital of Alberta (although, you have probably never heard of that either). Next time you wish to contribute to Wikipedia, please ensure that you at lease have a moderate understanding about the things that go on outside of your state, or perhaps, your county. In the meantime, pick up an Atlas. You might be surprised to learn that the United States is not the only country in the world. I apologize if I have insulted any Americans who actually have and education.

That's a whole lot of vicious bile coming from someone who apparently does not know the correct use of the word "lease" and uses a conjunction in the place of an indefinite article. You may not need an atlas, but it seems you could use a dictionary and a grammar text! Your sweeping generalizations about Americans and their educational system only further the stereotype of Canadians as self-righteous snobs.

• ...sorry, don't mean to correct you, but you did mention the use of grammer. The sentance, I apologize if I have insulted any Americans who actually have and education. Should actually read: I apologize if I have insulted any Americans who actually have AN education.

[edit] Rollercoaster Accident?

Wasn't there a rollercoaste accident on a coaster in Mall of America? I might be confused with another mall but I know there was one in the 80s that derailed and killed some people. Does anyone know any insight into what I have described? - Thanks --x1987x 17:28, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)

Gee, nevermind. [[2]] Mindbender coaster in the West Edmonton Mall. hehe.

I don't recall any rollercoaster accidents, but the "Mighty Axe" has had quite a few incidents in which is has gotten stuck upside down with riders on it (apparently it has a safety brake that kicked in). This happened at least three times between it's intro and 2001 when I left the area. -- Kaszeta 13:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Two people have died in the Mall of Americ's Camp Snoopy, both young boys. One was a suicide, and he jumped from the Log Ride, the other I'm unsure of the exact location, there are memorials to both boys in the camp.

[edit] Updated info

With the exception of Hooters, all the bars, restaurants, and nightclubs on the 4th floor have closed down. Jillians (who owned just about every club on the floor) had declared bankruptcy last year, so they were on thin ice financially as it was, and the new law in Hennepin County which included bars in the state's public smoking ban nailed Jillians' coffin shut. So now all that's on the 4th floor is Hooters and AMC. EmiOfBrie 07:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I was just up there a couple days ago and noticed all the night club windows had black plastic over them, but there are still large conference rooms in use.

[edit] Actual Size

According to this website, information regarding the King of Prussia Mall, Mall of America, and Woodfield Mall is incorrect. Perhaps we should check this information and update accordingly? Ajwebb 18:11, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Camp Snoopy

The MOA lost rights to use the Peanuts franchise recently. It's been temporarily renamed "The Park at MOA". This section should be re-written from scratch shaggy 07:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

• So, what's stopping you? Wahkeenah 08:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Source needed.

I removed this unsourced assertion:

A few years ago a Wall Street Journal writer described the style of the MOA as a "stegosaurus," although it remains a popular attraction.

Feel free to replace when sourced. —Encephalon 06:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Formerly contained the restaurants..."

Could Minnesota Picnic be added to this list? Chris 23:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Please add a section on the rumored 'secrets of the mall of america' aka 'the darkside of the megamall', like the tunnels, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.9.59.55 (talk • contribs).

• Feel free to do some research and add the info to the article. Wahkeenah 03:54, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Original research

Overall I think that this is a really good article, but I've placed an "original research" tag on it since it seems to make a lot of unsourced assertions. Can we please find some more references to show where the information is coming from, and to prove notability? I'm not saying that the mall isn't famous -- just that right now this article is way way outside of WP:V. --Elonka 18:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It needs footnotes (so do a lot of articles), but it's very far from original research, which is a very specific concept. As such, I've removed the tag as inappropriate. Rebecca 23:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Most visited mall innacurate?

I was reading about the Ala Moana Center in Hawaii on wikipedia, and it stated that the Ala Moana Center gets 56 million visitors annually...

[edit] Dinosaur Walk Museum

We were at MOA last night and the Dinosaur Walk museum was closed and shuttered. A few weeks ago it was still open. Anyone know what's up with that area? I'm still lamenting the closing of Golf Mountain... --Rehcsif 21:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)