Talk:Magnus I of Gothenland
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I find the last paragraph strange, can anyone confirm this and remove the last sentence?
Magnus had often traveled to the Swedish province of what is now Finland in his youth. Legend has it that his last words on the battlefield were the mournful song, "Finland, Finland, Finland...the country where I quite long to be!" His story was recorded in the Epic of Magnus, a lost poem mentioned in several Swedish documents.
Actually, that part's not true.
I think old name of this article (Magnus the Strong) is better, because Magnus was only pretender to crown. In all sources he is mentioned as pretender in time of civil war for Swedish crown, who controlled Götaland, but never as king of Götaland. --Ioakinf 15:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
- We do not take a position in Wikipedia upon who were rightful kings and who were not. The fact remains that he was an acknowledged, ruling king (of Gothenland) and is so acknowledged even today (curiously, see the king list published at the homepage of the royal court of Sweden). Contrary to the above allegation, there were and are plenty of sources which mention him as king. To name him as if he was just a pretender, will be POV. We instead mention such controversy in the article itself. Suedois 20:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- The line of Swedish kings in the early Middle Ages is not secure. Several of the kings are only attested in one or two sources, and if he was not acknowledged in Uppland, he did not, by definition, count as a king of Sweden. The only reason to assume that he was king of Sweden is an obscure line in Gesta Danorum book 13, where Saxo writes that Magnus was sole ruler after the death of Ragnvald Knaphövde.--Berig 20:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- The only source that mention the election of Magnus as king by the "Gothi" is Saxo Grammaticus and he clearly states that the election was illegal and annulled by the "Sueones".
- The line of Swedish kings in the early Middle Ages is not secure. Several of the kings are only attested in one or two sources, and if he was not acknowledged in Uppland, he did not, by definition, count as a king of Sweden. The only reason to assume that he was king of Sweden is an obscure line in Gesta Danorum book 13, where Saxo writes that Magnus was sole ruler after the death of Ragnvald Knaphövde.--Berig 20:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
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