Talk:Magic (Middle-earth)

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First of all, thank you very much for writing this page. Second of all, it does indeed need heavy editing. Fewer examples of magic and more discussion of the distinctions between magic in Middle-earth and magic elsewhere would be good. --Adanadhel 14:01, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I think that we should create subheadings with sections on different aspects of magic in Middle-Earth (eg, Magic of the Wizards as opposed to the magic of Sauron). Hoyohoyogold 06:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, the Wizards/Istari are generally considered to be Maiar (Olorin is for sure, at any rate) and hence of comparable class as Sauron. But then there is the magic of the Elves, and the Ents, and even the Dunedain, not to mention characters like Tom Bombadil. Anyway, I think some different headings in there would be a good idea. I'll get around to them if I can. Adanadhel 06:55, 09 January 2007

The article definitely needs to be more structured, with suitable headings. Also, there seems to be some confusion within the article between magic and supernatural phenomena. For example, the penultimate paragraph describes the powers of the Valar and Eru as being supernatural but not magical, but earlier the article states that "the moon-runes and its response to a password are supernatural and thereby magical", implying that supernatural powers are a subset of magic. This is inconsistent. A decision needs to be made about what exactly constitutes "magic" for the purposes of this article. —Slowspace 00:56, 11 January 2007 (UTC)