Talk:Magenta

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

	This article is supported by the Color WikiProject. This project provides a central approach to Color-related subjects on Wikipedia. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.
Start	This article has been rated as start-Class on the quality scale.
High	This article has been rated as high-importance on the importance scale.
Article Grading: The following comments were left by the quality and importance raters: (edit · refresh)

Contents 1 Magenta wraps between... 2 Equating Magenta and Fuchsia 3 Magenta and Amaranth 4 Magenta in human culture 5 Shades of... 6 Department of redundancy department

[edit] Magenta wraps between...

It says in this article that magenta wraps between red and blue in the color wheel. However, the colors at the edges of the spectrum are red and violet. Any clarifications?? Georgia guy 00:47, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The spectrum shown in the article is incorrect, as it shows a real violet — but violet is extraspectral too! This is probably both an overcorrection of the imperfect blue used by standard monitors and a reflection of the mistake to equate the spectrum with the colours of the rainbow, which is an extreme simplification--MWAK 05:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Show that the colors of the spectrum are not the same as the colors of the rainbow. Georgia guy 13:36, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Simply look at a rainbow and it will show you :o).--MWAK 12:09, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

In my defintion, violet is spectral, with a wavelength of about 400nm, see also [1]. --Pjacobi 07:06, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)

If we define it as such; it's correct — by definition :o). But others define the same hue as "blue", the blue referred to in "wraps between blue and red". One cause of confusion. And the hue in the spectrum illustrated in the article is not the 400 nm one. Can't you feel the red vibes? ;o)--MWAK 09:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

No, I'm red-green blind. --Pjacobi 09:58, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)

~:o)--MWAK 05:40, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Equating Magenta and Fuchsia

Are the 2 color names exactly the same?? This article equates them, but there are some sources, such as Crayola Crayons, that do not. Any opinions?? Georgia guy 21:58, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

My opinion is that they are not the same at all. I think Fuschia is a lighter shade of Magenta. --WillDarlock 17:52, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Specifically, what color (using RGB coordinates)?? Georgia guy 17:54, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Comparing it to the Fuschia hybrid plant and some other fuschia examples, the RGB I get is around (244, 0, 161). You can see it's a little pinker and lighter than Magenta. --WillDarlock 19:50, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

The commercial colour name Fuchsia is used for a much more saturated colour — and it's the origin of the common usage.--MWAK 05:05, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

As far as I've known my entire life, fuschia is basically 255-0-255, while Magenta would be closer to 255-0-128. If you open up MSPaint, the "pink" (right by orange) is magenta, and the "light purple" (by blue) is fuchsia. Matt Yeager 01:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Your MSPaint is a ghost link. Does the program have an article?? If so, please create a re-direct. Georgia guy 01:09, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

There you go! (If you have Windows, just click on Start, Run, then type in MSPaint). Matt Yeager 01:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

So, why is it called CMYK rather than CFYK?? Georgia guy 01:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

That's a tough one. I don't know--that's how I learned it though, and Crayola agrees with me, as far as I can remember. A Google search returns a wide range of colors for both of them. Matt Yeager 01:35, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Fuchsia cannot be 255-0-255. That is Magenta. The entire purpose of Magenta is that it was created a Processing color as one of the first aniline dyes. It is a spectral color that is NOT natural, as you have to bend the visible spectrum around to combine red and blue.

Fuchsia is the color representing the Fuchsia flower. It is clearly a distinct visible color as Fuchsia has much less purple quality to it and more of a richer pink.

This entire debate could have been avoided if the original web designers stuck to a convention of naming primary web colors as Magenta. Instead, someone, I have no idea who, decided to stick fuchsia in there. --WillDarlock 16:59, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Fuchsia generally is the more "pure [non-yellowish] red" of CYMK printing, and thus corresponds closely to 255-0-128 or at most 255-0-192. Before the era of computers for the general public, "magenta" always seemed to denote a more bluish deep pink, so I would say this was FF00FF! I always wondered why they used both "magenta" and "fuschsia" for that color. They should change "fuchsia" to FF0080 or FF00C0. Likewise, there is confusion as "cyan" refers to both the greenish 00FFFF of the screen, as well as the approximate 00C0FF of print ink.Eric B 19:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magenta and Amaranth

The color on the right below referred to as #FF0090 is similar to a color known as amaranth (which is slightly redder) because it is the color of the flower of the amaranth plant. There is a book called The Dictionary of Color by Maerz and Paul, published in 1964, in which this color is specifically called "amaranth". Before personal computers became common, this book was the standard reference on color. This book is still widely available in many libraries. Keraunos 11:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Magenta in human culture

I removed this section. It appears to have to do with the meanings of the word magenta, not the color. Georgia guy 13:40, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

The fashion, cosmetology, art, food and parapsychology subsections of magenta in human culture appear to be related to the colour and not the word. PaleAqua 02:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Responding to this criticism, I restored the sections mentioned above that have to do only with the color and I added a new section called astronomy which tells about magenta brown dwarfs. Keraunos 08:47, 14 September 2006 (UTC)↔ It is important to keep the [color] in Human Culture section because all the other major colors have it. Keraunos 08:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shades of...

See discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Color#Shades_of..._Subsections. PaleAqua 21:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Department of redundancy department

"It is a pure chroma on the color wheel between violet and red. Magenta lies on the color wheel between violet and rose, and therefore it is a pure chroma." Obviously one of these sentences should be removed. I haven't done so, lest there be strong opinions on which one it should be. Also, why are there two swatches (with the same HTML colour) next to each other? I've seen this on other colour pages, too. -Ahruman 14:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

The double color looks like a "my template's cooler than yours!" war... they're both gone as of now. And I fixed the sentence. Come on! Be bolder! ;) Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 22:59, 7 December 2006 (UTC)