Talk:Mabel McDowell School
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- Mabel McDowell School from [1]. -- Angela. 15:54, Aug 28, 2004 (UTC)
- The work is the by the US government and therefore public domain. Dunc_Harris|☺ 16:53, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Works produced by the US Federal government are PD. As the "Form Prepared By" section of that document says, the copy was written by "Storrow Kinsella Partnership Inc.". Unless we can show that the submitter explicitly agrees to placing their submission in the public domain (which certainly isn't the same as merely submitting a form to the federal government) then copyright resides with Storrow et al. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:26, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- It was at a .gov domain, and has no copyright notice. Anyway, I've got some more in Columbus, Indiana. Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:16, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- We need to be super-careful about inferring PD from .gov. For example, a bunch of NASA stuff is co-produced with ESA, and most (all?) of the US national labs are run by universities. And lack of a copyright notice doesn't mean lack of copyright. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:25, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- alright then, have these: Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:44, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- We need to be super-careful about inferring PD from .gov. For example, a bunch of NASA stuff is co-produced with ESA, and most (all?) of the US national labs are run by universities. And lack of a copyright notice doesn't mean lack of copyright. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 20:25, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- It was at a .gov domain, and has no copyright notice. Anyway, I've got some more in Columbus, Indiana. Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:16, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- Works produced by the US Federal government are PD. As the "Form Prepared By" section of that document says, the copy was written by "Storrow Kinsella Partnership Inc.". Unless we can show that the submitter explicitly agrees to placing their submission in the public domain (which certainly isn't the same as merely submitting a form to the federal government) then copyright resides with Storrow et al. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:26, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
- The work is the by the US government and therefore public domain. Dunc_Harris|☺ 16:53, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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- First Baptist Church, Columbus, Indiana
- First Christian Church, Columbus, Indiana
- Irwin Union Bank, Columbus, Indiana
- North Christian Church
- While I agree with Finlay that we have to be careful, we shouldn't go out of our way. The NPS says very clearly at [2] that "Information presented on this website, unless otherwise indicated, is considered in the public domain." They do not indicate that their sample application forms were not PD, and hence we can assume that info to be in the public domain, even if the original write-up was made by someone else. If it wasn't PD, the NPS would have stated something like "information reproduced courtesy of...". I do not know U.S. law well enough to decide whether information submitted voluntarily to U.S. government agencies (e.g. by filling out a form) automatically enters the public domain, but it is a possibility that should be researched. Lupo 08:45, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
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- This is from a National Historic Landmark Nomination. All such submissions become part of the public record, just like legal briefs submitted by lawyers. US Public records are available for reproduction by anyone. The application contains details of the preparers. If anyone is really concerned that this is not a public record, or has some other reason for believing that it's a problem, I suggest asking for their opinion. Jamesday 09:08, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Based on this discussion, I have chosen to remove the copyvio notice. These texts seem to be in the public domain. Lupo 12:57, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
