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Contents 1 Is This for Real? 2 View on LTTE 3 Guinness Book citation 4 Screenshots removed 5 Use of movie posters and film stills 6 Not a fan page 7 MGR's root

[edit] Is This for Real?

Is this an encyclopedia article or a fan page? If some of the negative aspects of MGR's authoritarian rule were added, how many people would immolate themselves?

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"pls remove RAMAN THEDIYA SEETHAI, replace it with ADIMAI PEN"

Someone added that to the article. I don't know whether it should be done or not. Everyking 13:16, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] View on LTTE

Why is this section important. It has absolutely no content. I suggest that this be removed. -Ambuj Saxena (talk) 16:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Guinness Book citation

To Anwar Saadat,

This is from the 1986 British edition of Guinness Book of Records - the large hardbound one (not the US paperback editions) with a drawing of an astronaut on the cover.

Page 219, Chapter : Relegions, accidents and disasters :

Largest funeral : The funeral of the charismatic CN Annadurai (died 3 Feb 1969), Madras chief minister, was, according to a police estimate, attended by 15 million people.

I am pretty sure that Limca book of records will have this as well, but have no way to check at the moment.

I am going to revert it again in a couple of hours. I don't know whether the whole of TN attended or if the police miscounted. I have stated my source. It is for you to find a better one to contradict it instead of changing it to what you *think*. Tintin (talk) 01:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Obviously its a typo... (1.5m --> 15m) Total population of Tamil Nadu on the eve of Anna's death was about 30m. Do you seriously expect half of them to enter his residence at Madras? And MGR died after 1986. Common sense needs no source. Anwar 01:56, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

If it is one, they haven't corrected it for 20 years, (and apparently, nobody noticed such a huge error ). If a reputed source says so, it stands until contradicted by a more authentic one. Do also take a look at the first line in WP:V. And it is not said anywhere that they went to their house (apparently it was at Marina). Tintin (talk) 02:05, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. Typos are common in publishing industry. Infact I have seen several substandard texts interchangebaly using the words million and lakh as if they were one and the same. Anwar 02:10, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

But until it is proved, with a better source (maybe a news item from Hindu), that they are wrong this stands. Tintin (talk) 02:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Maybe, they have added up the number of people who came to pay respects, and not just the people who attended the final rites ? But they call it a funeral, so .... Tintin (talk) 02:30, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I added a question at the reference desk to see whether any one can add more to this. Also, note that we don't have a single source which says that MGR's funeral was the largest. From a search, Pope John's funeral drew a crowd between 2 and 4 million see this for an eg which in itself nullifies that claim. Tintin (talk) 06:11, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I had forgot about this. I am removing it now :

(a) We have an authentic source (Guinness book) which calls another funeral the biggest in the world. See WP:V; also note that even if the estimate is wrong by a factor of seven, Annadurai's will still be bigger than MGR's. That discussion is for the Annadurai page, not this one.

(b) We don't have a single source which calls MGR's the biggest. Even if we have a ref, it must be one that is more authentic than the GBofR. Tintin (talk) 05:09, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshots removed

Film screenshots are not eligible for fair use in an article like this, unless the film in question is being critiqued/discussed. Therefore they have been removed from the article. --cholmes75 (chit chat) 13:40, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of movie posters and film stills

I don't believe the use of these images is permitted by fair use on this article, only on articles about the movie or the poster itself. A Ramachandran 06:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not a fan page

There are too many photos.I appreciate the effort BUT I have seen no other photo gallery for a user, please pick two or three which back up the article. I have removed email address and personal comment, as they are unencyclopedic. Would appreciate comments.. --DManning(talk) 12:58, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I am being bold and removing the gallery. Only important pictures which reinforce and help clarify the article should remain, please do not reinstate the gallery or add more pics without discussing it here. Cheers Dmanning 05:53, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you very much for removing the gallery of pictures that i have put in to make the article on MGR more interesting. Will you be bold enough to remove pictures of any other great leader say Mahatma Gandhi or Adolf Hitler??? All these pictures are a part of the history of tamil nadu and user:Dmanning is acting in a saddistic manner Kumarrajendran (59.92.51.155 01:23, 18 February 2007 (UTC)).

Yes I would, please go back and look at the photos and ask yourself if EACH ONE deserves to be there. I added a selection I thought improved the article, if you have a website feel free to host them and link to it but Ghandi, Hitler and no other Bio page has a gallery with most of the pictures being him shaking hands with someone else. Have a good day Dmanning 17:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

interested that most online sources prefer 'Marudar'. To 'Maruthar' (as at top of main page). Not sure if worth changing...

[edit] MGR's root

I got this info from the url http://www.namboothiri.com/articles/bhrashtu.htm. It talks about a person by name Melakkath Gopala Menon, whos son became a famous film actor, a political leader and top administrator. Is he MGR's father?

1.The first Case (1903): A widowed "Antharjanam" of an Illam near Kunnamkulam was suspected of sexual misconduct. During the "Smaartha Vichaaram" she confessed to have had illicit relations with 15 persons of various communities from Namboothiri to a barber. The verdict resulted in excommunication of all the 15 and the Antharjanam herself.

One of the victims is said to have been Melakkath Gopala Menon, a judicial officer in Thrissur, who had married Meenakshi Amma of Vattaparambil Nair family of Irinjalakuda. He left his family, went to Palakkad where he married a lower caste woman and together left for Sri Lanka. When he died after two sons were born, his widow returned to Tamil Nadu with her children. One of the boys later became a famous film actor, a political leader and top administrator.