Talk:Luger pistol

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Contents 1 Effective Range? 2 Too many pictures? 3 Questions 4 Toggle lock 5 Article title 6 Circle thing on top 7 Hot ammo

[edit] Effective Range?

What is the effective range for the Luger? --Ambassador Weyoun 03:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

About 30 yards according to this page. Thernlund ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 06:13, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

NONSENCE

A hangun's range largely depends on the shooter's ability to use a 'Short-Range-Intended Weapon' at greater distances.

Look at wat Ed McGivern did in the 30's with Smith&Wesson revolvers at distances upto 600 yards.

Although by far not being as good as Ed McGivern, I regularly demonstrated this on the shooting-range by placing all (Or most of) my shots (Out of a S&W mod. 39 semi-auto 9mm. pistol) in a target about as big as a man's chest at a distance of 200 metres.

Ed Mc.Givern did this (Crouched and leaning against a tree) at 600 yards with a 357 magnum S&W!

To do this kind of shooting a lot of things have to be taken into account (Like elevation) but the biggest problem is that, outdoors, the slower handgun-bullets (Typically MACH 1 when leaving the muzzle) may undergo a lot of drift caused by wind.81.245.162.57 19:38, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok. -Thernlund ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 19:58, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Effective range usually takes into account terminal, not just external ballistics. You maybe able to hit a target at 600yds with a pistol but it's doubtfull wether any serious wounding can be caused. Veritas Panther 03:57, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Too many pictures?

Currently there are seven pictures on this article one right after the other. This seems like too many considering that the article itself is fairly small. BigSciZot 19:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I boldly removed of the redundant pics while doing other edits. Thernlund 21:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Questions

What is the difference between a Luger and a Ruger. Is Luger the type of gun, while Ruger is a brand?

You can ever go as far as to say they're two different "brands" that just share an inconsequential similarity in their spelling. Veritas Panther 03:12, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Interestingly some Rugers look a bit like Lugers.--Kalmia 11:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Toggle lock

'Toggle lock' links to 'firearm actions', which contains no mention of toggle lock. Someone please edit it to include it. -Toptomcat 14:43, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article title

The title of this article should be Parabellum (pistol) or something similar, since that is the proper name of the gun.

[edit] Circle thing on top

This is probably a stupid question, but what is the function of the distinctive circular thing at the top rear of the weapon?--85.210.21.76 18:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

It is the pivot point of the toggle. This part hits the frame on recoil as the barrel assembly moves backwards which unlocks the toggle. This allows the bolt to move rearwards and ejects the cartridge. It is also were you grasp the toggle in order to cock/load/unload the weapon. Most weapons you pull back on a cocking device, with the Luger you pull upwards in relation to the barrel. With the 1900 model equipped with a toggle lock you pull back and then up. It's easier than it sounds once you get the hang of it.

Thanks - I eventually found a diagram that showed how it works, too.

[edit] Hot ammo

What does "hot" mean in the following sentence?: "American 9 mm ammunition is nowhere near as hot as German military-spec ammunition" Could that be re-written for people unfamiliar with firearms jargon?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jeffkw (talk • contribs).

I believe that 'hot' means it has more powder behind the bullet. Someone correct me if I am wrong. --Kalmia 11:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)