User talk:Ludde23

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I'm guessing one of my kids was meddling with the keyboard when I walked away from the PC and I didn't notice before I saved it. Good catch, thanks! •Jim62sch• 13:27, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

As I plan on going through the year articles in other languages, if I run across something on the Swedish articles that I don't have can you translate for me? As I said, I can read a little Swedish (by way of German), but only enough to know a really general idea of what it's about. BTW, I don't know if you can speak French (your English is excellent by the way) but the French year articles are quite good, and I've piched a good bit from them. Tack så hemskt mycket!
PS, I ran across your Swedish page as I was trying to find out info on Annius Rufus. •Jim62sch• 21:24, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

My condolences on the passing of your Grandmother. I have a feeling that working together, the Swedish and English year articles might become the archetypical year articles (right now, I'd have to give that title to the French articles). Language question: are you aware of a good Swedish on-line course? I found one for Norsk (Nynorsk) -- my dad was half Norwegian -- but I think that overall Swedish is slightly more valuable (especially if one is a hockey fan -- I live in Philadelphia, current hometeam of Peter Forsberg). Take care. •Jim62sch• 22:06, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

The French article had Arminius' death dated as 19 -- and they were wrong. Thanks for catching that, I'll fix it. •Jim62sch• 23:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Well, at least I now know that English isn't the only language slaughtered by its native speakers. I too make a lot of grammar edits, though I'm not as much of a perfectionist as I used to be -- primarily because I get very tired of fixing mistakes that are born of ignorance. (I'll send you a link to my blog as thar has an article on those errors).
To edit your signature, go to My Preferences and put your signature in the "Nickname" box (be sure to check "raw". For example, here's a modified version of mine with your user name and a different font and colours:

•Ludde23•, talk You should be able to just put that string in the nickname box and then check it on your user page.

The colours are listed here: colours
My abbreviations are a function of laziness, ce=copyedit, wiki=add wiki links, rem ol=remove overlinking, yb's=add year boxes (all three boxes at once), hdr=header. I think that's all of them.
It's -5 UTC normally, but -4 during DST, so the difference between here and Sweden should always be 6 hours* (a heck of a lot easier than dealing with Australia :)
* excpt that we start a week later.
Odd question: what is the most popular food in Sweden?
Take care. •Jim62sch• 13:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Pizza's big here too, pasta not as much -- on the coasts where the Italians settled, yes, but in the heartland, not so much. But, so many Americans live on McDonald's slop it isn't funny. I prefer real food, and since I do the cooking, we eat a wide variety of stuff -- German, French, Italian, Mexican, Asian, American, etc. (No Norwegian recipes from my ancestors though, but given that they eat Luttefisk, I think I can live without it  ;) (One aside about Pizza -- if you're in the states, Philadelphia, New York, Boston and Chicago have good pizza -- don't go near it on the west coast...alfalfa sprouts and tofu don't belong on a pizza) Right now I'm in three phases on the year articles, the formatting is done up to 610, the initial additions to 412, and the re-editing to about 60, it just depends on what mood I'm in which I decide to do. Take care, •Jim62sch• 16:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

I use monobook for the skin...too lazy to change. Orange spots on the ceiling, eh? Hmmm.
I like the way you have the Template:Årtal 1-799 take care of creating the year box (although I prefer the fomat of the actual yb itself that we have on en-wiki). If there was a way to program that for en-wiki using the yb I currently use (and maybe incorporating the 2 other boxes as well) it'd be great. Where does the program pull the year from, the article title? (What's (a) båttypen? (not sure if that's plural or if the n at the end of the word is the article). I understood the rest of the dab on the 470 article).
Meatballs -- I make meatballs too, but my own recipe based on the Italian variety. Don't the Swedish-variety meatballs have a sweetener (jelly?) in them? I've only every had Swedish meatballs from a box -- there's a paucity of good Scandanavian restaurants in the US. In fact, the only one I can think of that is any good is in New York, called Aquavit.
Oh, and yes, if you pass where I'm at on the English articles feel free to add the yb's etc. Take care! •Jim62sch• 17:38, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The Parser Function looks interesting and rather useful. Any chance you could show me the script behind the Årtal 1-799 template?
Thanks for explaining båttypen -- the method is the same as Norwegian (no surprise there given the history of Norway and Sweden). I'm going through the Swedish year articles and comparing tem to the English articles to try to get a sense of how Swedish works. As with all languages, some parts are easy to figure out, others are not.
Question, I know what the following sentence means, but can you give me a literal, word-for-word translation? "Lejon är utrotade i Europa senast vid denna tid"
Believe it or not, I have a fiend who puts grape jelly in her meatballs -- it's actually not bas. My meatball recipe is a bit more involved -- I can send it to you on e-mail if you're interested.
I was looking up sunrise/sunset times in different cities in the world for my daughter the other day and I noticed that Stockholm has a whopping 2 hours of total darkness right now, that's got to be a bit weird. (As must be December 21, when it has 6 hours of daylight).
Oh, before I forget, dab is short for disambiguation. Ciao, •Jim62sch• 11:02, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the Swedish lesson! I wasn't sure if it was senast or utrotade that meant extinct (is utrotade a compound word?). Oh, I took vid to mean "by", not at -- oops. Nice to see that Swedish has "zero plurals", too, we certainly have enough in English -- deer, fish, etc.
This, "I have a fiend who puts grape jelly in her meatballs -- it's actually not bas", was one of my rrather too frequent typos. It should have been, "I have a friend who puts grape jelly in her meatballs -- it's actually not bad"
"{" and "}" are called brackets (gullwings sounds better), and # is the pound sign.
Since I used to be a programmer, the parser function looks pretty easy to understand. Now, for the next question: when you write the script, where on Wiki is it stored?
Sunrise (SR) and sunset (SS) in Philly: June 21, SR - 5:32 AM, SS - 8:33 PM; December 21, SR - 7:19 AM, SS - 4:39 PM. Here's a link to a pretty good site to get info on places all over the world, [1].
Changing subjects: which is the front-line Swedish fighter plane now -- Drakken or Viggen? See ya, •Jim62sch• 21:44, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Hej Ludde, goddag, sorry it took so long to get back to you -- things have been crazy.
I started studying Swedish -- but don't expect too much from me yet. The fastest I ever learned a language was about a month, and that was Portuguese and since I already knew Latin, Catalan, Spanishj, French and Italian by then, it was pretty easy. Of Germanic languages, on the other hand, I really only know two -- English and German, so I expect it to take a bit more time.
On the house, mouse, louse thing: in Old English mouse (mus) and louse (lus) were masculine nouns with a strong declension and an "i mutation"; house (hus) was a neuter noun with a weak declension and no i mutation. Since that pattern seems to run through Germanic languages (primarily low German and Nordic languages), I'm guessing that Old Norse had the same basic declension and i mutation as Old English.
I love history and could never really understand why more people don't. I guess part of it is that in the States many history teachers worry more about dates and names and places than they do why those dates, names and places were important. They never really get inside the history to show why it's interesting. In any case, I have quite a significant number of history books in my own library, with a roughly equal distribution between European history and American history. (I think our attraction to the year articles is the same).
So what other subjects are you interested in? I have a whole slew of academic interests that range from history to linguistics, political science to theoretical physics/cosmology, reading to music to philosophy to cooking, etc. Adjö, •Jim62sch• 09:51, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
I tried, I'm getting screwed up on part of it!
Introducing the Beau Brummels, The Beau Brummels debutalbum, släppt april 1965. På albumet finns gruppens två kändaste låtar "Laugh, Laugh" och "Just a Little" men de övriga låtarna på albumet brukar även de räknas som gruppens finare material.
Introducing the Beau Brummels, The Beau Brummels debut album came out in April 1965. This album contains the group’s two biggest hits, "Laugh, Laugh" and "Just a Little" but de övriga låtarna på albumet brukar även de räknas som gruppens finare material. (has some of the group’s finest material).
•Jim62sch• 14:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Ludde, I'm sorry I haven't gotten back to you...things have been really hectic. I'll respond more fully tomorrow. •Jim62sch• 23:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Ludde, can you e-mail me from my user page? •Jim62sch• 10:35, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
Just send it regular: jim62sch@aol.com

[edit] Changes to 494BC

Thanks for your corrections. It does read better using present tense! --Chaleyer61 09:57, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pre 101

Yes, I was aware of this. I am avoiding those years for now, but may change it later. ed g2s • talk 16:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Ludde23 wrote, "What about years BC? And what about the 1st century? Check those out and fix them, please! /Ludde23 Talk Contrib 14:38, 6 December 2006 (UTC)"
Response (02-Feb-2007): I have developed a new nav-box for 1st century (only): it is fairly complex and called "Template:Year nav 1st century CE" which can handle years 1-100 (and show years BC), such as for year "2":
{{Year nav 1st century CE|2}}
The calculations are so complex that the template is dangerous to maintain, and is being purposely limited to years 1-100. An even more complex template could be created to handle any year, but perhaps, only 1 person in 1000 could understand the multiple nested calculations, making such an any-year template very dangerous to maintain. Wikitables do not yet use typical computer-language syntax, so an any-year template might use "#ifeq" nesting calculations to handle any specified year; however, even experienced computer programmers would see such a template as too arcane and obtuse to easily modify. Rule of programming: "If no one else could modify it, avoid writing it" (rule of thumb). I plan to create some less complex templates to handle only years BC. Later. -Wikid77 14:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Appreciation

Thank you for your kind words with regard to my work on the year by year history articles. I have been overseas in Europe for the last four weeks (I was unable to get to Sweden unfortunately!), so I have not had the opportunity until now to respond to your comments. Nor have I had the opportunity to do any further work on updating the year by year history articles.

I am now on leave from work for the next three weeks -- in Australia this is the time of year when most people take their annual leave. I hope to do quite a bit more work on updating articles for the remaining years of the fifth century BC and hopefully move into the fourth century BC during my period on leave. If I had the time, I would like to update many more years. I am interested in medieval European history as well as ancient European and Middle Eastern history.

Regards

Chaleyer61 Talk Contrib 09:35, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

And thanks for picking up all the errors in layout and factual errors. Much appreciated. Have a Happy New Year!! --Chaleyer61 01:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 308

Why shouldn't the notice at the top of 308 not say that it refers to 308 AD? I can see the consistency argument to a point, but the fact is that "the year 308" is ambiguous, and there is also an article for 308 BC. Spute 19:35, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 66

No telecom in 66AD? Arrrgh. I'm sorry about that. Thanks for catching that. I meant for that to be on the DAB page, but wasn't paying attention. --Mdwyer 21:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Year nav BC

02-February-2007 (also in ed g2s-Talk): Okay, I have created "Template:Year nav BC" to handle any year BC, from 1 BC or earlier (fairly complex). For balance, when displaying years not BC, it shows the year-link but adds tiny "CE" such as "3 CE" as opposed to "3 BC" (most years are BC). Putting tiny BC/CE makes the table more narrow, allowing more text to the lefthand side, and the larger numerals are more visible as link choices to click. Complexity: Yes, it is fairly complex, but with the current internal comments, I think it could be understood & modified. Also, I intend to add a few more comments & "see-alsos" linking Wikitable help-pages. Vandalprone: It's dangerous; however, I plan to create a redundant variation as "Template:Year nav BCE" showing "BCE" not "BC" dates; those 2 templates could be compared, if one breaks, to help spot hidden vandalism. (Can you imagine if the Wiki-editing software were open to anonymous IP-address modifications?) It appears any article should be verified once-per-month for hidden vandalism/glitches, but that also promotes improvements, based on formats or images/artwork from other articles. Reserving verification time once-per-month can make it tolerable. BTW: I was stunned at the myriad number of current years-BC article names. Later. -Wikid77 04:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References in Year Articles

Thank you for your feedback. I am pleased that you appreciate what I'm doing.

I know you are using some of my material for your language specific sites which is great. I find it interesting to note that most of the changes that other people are making to my entries relate to putting in fancy boxes or fancy software and links, rather than actually improving were checking the quality of what is there (which is what you do).

With regard to your question, I stopped adding the references when concerns were raised with me about quoting the books that I was using as general references rather than giving specific page numbers from each entry I was making. I thought having to give specific page references for each entry, while feasible, was too labour-intensive.

In addition, I work on the principle that what I'm putting into the "year" pages actually reflects material that is already on Wikipedia, rather than a lot of new material. Effectively, I am synthesising a diverse range of articles on Wikipedia into entries that can neatly fit into a particular year.

Therefore, it doesn't really make much sense referring to the references that I am using to doublecheck that the Wikipedia entries are correct.

I hope my explanation makes sense.

Regards

--Chaleyer61 05:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the cleanups of the 490BCs. That looks much better!!

--Chaleyer61 22:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Layout of my User Page

You are right. The "ACT" box is for some reason unknown to me slightly in the wrong place and it has this other bigger box with dotted lines around it.

Do you know what is causing the problem? I would like to have my few user boxes in neat rows. Regards --Chaleyer61 10:36, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Marvellous. Thanks for your help!! --Chaleyer61 12:03, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
Happy for you to fix the date. Reminds me that I have to find the time to keep going into the 3rd century BC!!  :) --Chaleyer61 22:22, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki links to year

First off, I want to apologize to you if I offended you with my comments. I posted the following on the 300 page:

Ludde23 - No offense was taken on my part Adding the 300 movie link makes since to me. However, I think this issue reflects a larger issue - that being when there are other popular references to a number (such as Seven, 69, 300, 666, 911, 1984, 2001, etc), a person's search goes automatically to the year. If they are not searching for the year, then that person must go to the disambiguation page and then finally to the other page they want. Perhaps Wikipedia has already addressed this issue and it was determine that it was better in the long run to have it always go to year; but it seems to me it is just effective to go to a disambiguation page in certain select cases (where there is "significant" (whatever that is determined might mean) other references other than the year). Unfortunately I am not sure where to post this problem if it actually exists.

If you know that this has been addressed already, please let me know. Yours Jvsett 07:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

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