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FAC and FARC

I've changed my mind completely. I now believe that EVERY article should go through some sort of thorough and rigorous review process similar to FAC and FAR. It's the only way to get attention onto the vast majority of monstrosities out there. The higher standards on FAC and FAR are the only things that have actually resulted in improving the quality of at least some articles on Wikipedia. Tougher standards need to be applied everywhere. --Francesco Franco aka Lacatosias 07:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Spoilers

Could you clarify your statement Wikipedia talk:Spoiler warning? It is unclear if you are opposed to spoilers or spoiler warnings. It sounds like you want to remove information from articles that could be considered spoilers. Dmoon1 18:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Re: Marilyn Manson (person)

You're absolutely right about Mr. Manson's article — it's pretty weak, and it's been weak for a while. It really shouldn't be too difficult to make a good article come out of it, though, since plenty of source material is out there; it's just a matter of actually writing the article. Part of the problem with it is that it's kind of a fancruft target (did you see what the "Trivia" section used to look like?!), and way too much of the information is in list format or short, declarative sentences instead of readable prose. The "Private life" basically needs to be wiped entirely and worked into a new "Biography" section, the "Career" section isn't terrible but needs to be fleshed out, and the two "lists" ("Lawsuits" and "Trivia") need to be rewritten as prose (and, jeez, we really need to get rid of that "he likes absinthe and broccoli and he's BFF with Johnny Depp w00t w00t" stuff while we're at it). I'll see what I can do in terms of beefing up the sadder parts of the article this weekend. --keepsleeping slack off! 02:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

What are the naming conventions on Wikipedia. Daisy Berkowitz's page is under "Scott Putesky", yet Ginger Fish's is under his stage name. It conflicts and reflects badly on Wikipedia

Actually, it makes perfect sense. Scott Putesky currently uses the name "Scott Putesky" professionally; Kenny Wilson uses the name "Ginger Fish" professionally. --keepsleeping slack off! 14:51, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
Additionally, from May 2004 through March 2005, the Twiggy Ramirez article was at Twiggy Ramirez, and when he started using his own name rather than his stage name the article was moved to Jeordie White. It's all a matter of under what name the artist is best known. --keepsleeping slack off! 14:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

The Beautiful People

You requested a GA analysis for this article from kingboyk. I have read the article and will also add my voice.

It would fail on the account of not having a big enough lead section. Also, the song sample should be in a later section. It would be nice to have some public reception/response to the song too. Everything else is nice, it is also well-written. Lincher 20:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
You can take a look at All You Need Is Love (The JAMs song). Lincher 21:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Try typing the words with quotes and without quotes in google and in books.google. You might find stuff you didn't find before. I may try to lend a hand (but I'm really busy with the WP:WPBIO tagging so I might not have all the time to help you). Lincher 21:46, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Take a look at Talk about Manson's writing of TBP. Lincher 21:50, 12 September 2006 (UTC) ... sorry, saw you already have the link. Lincher 21:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
This [1]] gives insight into marilyn manson and his generation ... maybe you can find stuff in there. Lincher 22:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
About the quote left on my talk page ... sounds like OR to me, I can't really say more, just remove it from the text and leave it in the discussion page, it will be brought back in the article if the original author is still around, you can then ask for a citation to go with it. Lincher 02:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Well I just popped over to say thanks for the support you left at our FAC, which has really made my day :), and I see that you're the same person who asked for my advice and to which I haven't answered yet. How embarressing! I knew that Lincher was responding though, as I have his talkpage on my watchlist. I'm really busy programming this at the moment so if you still need any help ask me again in a couple of days. As for the FAC, I know you're the sort of editor who calls a spade a spade so the very fact you wouldn't praise up an article without meaning it makes your comments all the more potent. Thanks for putting a smile on my face (and do you mind if I quote it on the WikiProject?). --kingboyk 17:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Tom Jones (singer)

Need advice ref this page and adding categories "Blue-eyed soul" and "Crooner". These are existing categories (comes up on a search) but when adding to the Tom Jones article doesnt direct to the correct page. Help? Thank you. 72.144.84.225 13:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Copyedit

Hi. The article on HIV is currently on FAC review. One of the issues that has arisen is the need for a copyedit. User:Tony1 suggested that you might be willing to have look over it as it does need a pair of fresh eyes. It's a really important article that we want to ride on WP's reach into the developed and developing worlds, and a linguistic edit is required, so don't be put off by the medical content. Your fresh eyes would be of great value at this mature stage of the FAC process. Thanks. --Bob 19:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Album infobox question

I don't normally work with this project but I think they changed the colors. You can look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums#Colors for the colors used and discuss it at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Albums#Proposed_new_colour_theme which is where (I think) they decided on changing the colors. Lincher 18:14, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

FAR

Wikipedia:Featured article review/Mary II of England needs a new look, since it's now been cited. Best, Sandy 03:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Yomangani worked on Transit of Venus - needs another look. Regards, Sandy 13:40, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

England expects

Please take another look at England expects that every man will do his duty (FAR). I have rewritten and cited the article. Thanks, Yomanganitalk 15:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

The Beautiful People part 2

This article looks as good as they get IMO. It would meet all the criteria. The only thing I was wondering is if the sections Origins & Composition and lyrical content could be better cited to prevent it being original reasearch. Don't have much more to say. Good luck with the rest. Lincher 12:00, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

WP:CITE

Have you followed the mess about GAs, where some math/physics editors are objecting to requirements for inline citations? Plange and Kirill are trying to inject some reason over there, but they are trying to say inline citations shouldn't be required, basically, for them. Since you're a "citer" like I am, you might want to have a look over there. Sandy 02:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

They're still going, and claiming they have consensus. Sandy 23:14, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

FAR noms

Hi Lucifer. We've been trying to avoid having too many noms going at once from individual uses, and particularly multiple noms in a day. We've been able to "save" a fair number, which is easier if the page doesn't get over-loaded. Marskell 12:37, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

There's a brief conversation here about it. As I note there, I'm in favour of gently suggesting people not nom too much at once, rather than having a hard rule. At the moment I think 30 on the page at once is about right, though it sometimes gets as high as 37 or 38. If we had more people editing the articles, of course, we could accept a higher number on the page. Marskell 12:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Milgram

Thanks - that may help, I'll have a look ! Sandy 16:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Please use the preview button!

I would like to thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. However, it is recommended that you use the preview button before you save; this helps you find any errors you have made, and prevents clogging up recent changes and the page history. Thanks again. — Prodigenous Zee - 01:40, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Cite tag removal

Well, that's irritating, since it takes a lot of work to place them, and it must be something akin to vandalism to remove them. However, I can't find the specific policy or guideline to quote about not removing cite tags: what would you like me to do next? Sandy 16:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I already left one message on his talk page, so let me know if he removes them again, and I'll try to explain further. We may need to get an admin involved (Joelito?) if he doesn't understand: I can't find a template message for removal of cite tags. Sandy 17:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you're trying to save that article all by yourself, and another editor isn't cooperating, you've got an uphill battle :-) I thought I'd have plenty of time for working on the articles I nominated, but I didn't count on Tuberculosis coming up: it's killing my time. Sandy 17:29, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sheesh, I decided to go have a look and see if I could help just when Wiki's servers decided to stop working here. I have a lot of comments: do you want me to put them here, on the article talk page, or on the FAR talk page? Actually, it's not that many comments: looking at the lead, there is too much detail there - stuff that should be in the body. I didn't get much further than that, because Wiki wasn't working. Sandy 22:39, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

KLF articles

Hey (is it "Lucifer" or "Morgan"? :)), Thanks for your additions to the todo lists on quite a few KLF articles. Not only am I really grateful for the help, there's also the gratifying implication that you think they're worth reading. Quite an interesting band, right? :) Thanks again and keep on rocking! --kingboyk 22:26, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Would you look at 1987 (What the Fuck Is Going On?)? It's on FAC, where it has 2 supports but 1 vague object saying it's only GA standard. I think that, as an article on a limited edition "underground" album available for only a few months in 1987, it's comprehensive and outstanding; I think it's well written. I'm not here to try and swing a support, you're impartial and a plain speaker - I trust you to examine the article with a keen eye - is this FA quality or am I flogging a dead horse? --kingboyk 11:15, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
[2] :) I knew it!
Apparently The KLF won an award at Wikimania 2006. Nobody bothered to tell me though, the bastards! --kingboyk 14:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks again Mr Morgan. You've been doing more KLF work than me lately! I hope to resume normal operations some time soon. --kingboyk 11:51, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

I thank you, sir. It is heart-warming to read such nice words. --andreasegde 05:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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