Talk:Lucretius

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography. For more information, visit the project page.
Start This article has been rated as Start-Class on the Project's quality scale. [FAQ]
(If you rated the article, please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)
Socrates This article is within the scope of the Philosophy WikiProject, which collaborates on articles related to philosophy and the history of ideas. Please read the instructions and standards for writing and maintaining philosophy articles. To participate, you can edit this article or visit the project page for more details.
Start This article has been rated as start-Class on the Project's quality scale.
(If you rated the article please give a short summary at comments to explain the ratings and/or to identify the strengths and weaknesses.)

Contents

[edit] Philtre

He claims that Lucretius was driven mad by a love-philtre and that the work was written during the intervals of his insanity, before he killed himself. Philtre links to some band, which I'm guessing is not the meaning used here. Perhaps the meaning of the word should be explained? ---Arbiter125

  • Good eye! I changed it for you. --Rednblu 16:12, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Did Lucretius actually free men's minds of superstition?

Titus Lucretius Carus (c. 99 - 55 BC) was a Roman poet and philosopher, whose contribution was to free men's minds of superstition and fear of death.

That sounds like he actually did it too. And impossible task. -FredrikM

---

  • What do you propose as an improvement and replacement sentence? What have scholars said about Lucretius in regard to "freeing men's minds of superstition and fear of death"? What did Lucretius say about "freeing men's minds of superstition and fear of death." ---Rednblu 21:05, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
  • I don't know how the sentence should be revised, but in addition to previous comments, it sounds a little grammatically ambiguous Euphoria 16:04, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)
  • Where could we look to get an idea of how to fix what troubles you in that sentence? ---Rednblu | Talk 19:25, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Life/Death of Lucretius; Jerome

I fixed up the balderdash that was placed as Jerome's account of L's live. Here's the Latin, taken from E. J. Kenney's edition of De Rerum Natura III (cited in main article):

Titus Lucretius poeta nascitur, qui postea amatorio poculo in furorem versus, cum aliquot libros per intervalla insaniae conscripsisset quos postea Cicero emendavit, propria se manu interfecit anno aetatis XLIIII.

When I get around to it I'll put in something about Cicero's emending the text. Existent80 July 7, 2005 00:13 (UTC)

[edit] Comment cut to here for discussion

Although the poem De Rerum Natura is Epicurean in nature, the really interesting question to think on is whether Lucretius himself was indeed and Epicurean. This question presents a problem only intended for philosophical thinkers due to the nature of it. And when I speak of the nature of this problem, it is only to point out the complexity of dealing with ancient authors and their respective writings.

I cut the above editorial comment here for discussion. Is there a published scholar who says this? We would need a citation, please. ---Rednblu | Talk 23:37, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)


R.E. Latham translated "religio" as "superstition." It clearly seems to me that it should have been translated as "religion." English readers have no idea that Lucretius used "religio" as his original word. This makes a great difference in the understanding of his writing.


Montaigne was fascinated by Lucretius. In his "Apology for Raymond Sebond," Montaigne was supposed to be writing an essay in support of Christianity. But, his frequent quotations from Lucretius tend to convince the reader that Christian dogma is not credible. 64.12.117.8 22:40, 9 September 2005 (UTC)Bruce Partington


[edit] Disambiguation needed?

The poet/philosopher Lucretius is the most famous member of the ancient clan of Lucratii. Shouldn't there be a disambiguation page for other Lucratii? There is also a Lucius Lucratius and a Gnaeus Lucratius. 220.15.200.33 02:26, 25 October 2005 (UTC) MGA

Indeed. In addition to Titus Lucretius Carus there are Gnaeus Lucretius Trio and Lucius Lucretius Trio as you have said. Also Sp. Lucretius Triciptinus, T. Lucretius T. p. Triciptinus, a Lucretius (Triciptinus), L. Lucretius T. f. T. n. Triciptinus, Hostus Lucretius L. f. T. n. Triciptinus, P. Lucretius Hosti f. Triciptinus, L. Lucretius Flavus Triciptinus, Lucretius Vespillo, two by the name of Q. Lucretius Vespillo and of course the famous Lucretia. Most of these can be dealt with as a short note on a disambig. page, but not all. Whogue 09:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)