Talk:Louis Vezelis

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Note-to any Editors,wikipedians etc. I live next door to Bishop Louis,I know that he is a Lithuanian-American.

                       -Damian No

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[edit] Franciscan Order

Historically there have been many divisions of the Franciscan Order with various rules, some strict and others mitigated. Which rule does Bishop Vezelis follow?

Also, there are other Franciscan orders existing that claim to follow traditional Catholicism, so this means the claim of Bp. Vezelis that he is THE Franciscan Order is false. Franciscan Orders don't need to include priests to be an Order. And Bp. Vezelis cannot claim someone else is not strictly speaking "Catholic" unless top authority declares it to be so after the subject does not obey the correction. This is what St. Thomas Aquinas teaches.

[edit] Ordinary Jurisdiction

Bp. Vezelis claims to have ordinary jurisdiction directly by being consecrated a bishop. However, according to history, and Rome's approval, this is false. Here is a quote from an Ecclesiastical Law book from 1887 which was sent to Rome for correction, but which retained the true teaching that bishops do not automatically have ordinary jurisdiction (Elements of Ecclesiastical Law, Rev. S.B. Smith, D.D, Benziger Brothers, printers to the Holy Apostolic See):

some of the ancient chorepiscopi, though true bishops, were not possessed of any jurisdictio ordinaria. Finally honorary bishops were formerly created to whom no diocese was assigned. It is evident, therefore, that a person may have the potestas ordinis episcopalis without having any jurisdictio.

Damian, who lives next door, can hopefully give this quote to Bp. Vezelis, and relay his response here. --Diligens 12:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Bishop Louis Declined to comment on this questionable Article quoting that he does not want to be involved with this discussion.

[edit] Lacking information

There is something lacking in this biography... Where was this man born ??? What does "Lithuanian-American" refer to ? Rell Canis 23:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)