Talk:Louis Cukela

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[edit] Origin

I've neutralized the somewhat emotional references to Serbia and stuff, because a person from Split and/or Šibenik had very little to do with Serbia in the period 1888-1918. --Joy [shallot] 12:01, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Regarding book quotes, both are fairly pointless and baseless. How does one develop a Serbian accent if they never lived there? And, is that Serbian as opposed to Croatian accent, or Serbian accent in English, as opposed to, say, Italian? The McAdams quote is obviously an assertion and counts only as an opinion lacking other evidence.

The Croatian phone directory[1] finds a single person named Cukela on the island of Šolta (that's near Brač and Trogir). For reference, of the 1,479 people who live on Šolta, five were Serbs (census 2001). No idea if it's the Cukelas. --Joy [shallot] 12:12, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC) Google can't find me any reference to his father ("George Cukela") or mother ("Jovana Bubrich"). Where does this information come from? What would be their native names (not Anglicizations)? --Joy [shallot] 12:14, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well, Georges native name might be Djordje, or Goran (like Ivanisevic). And Jovana could be simply Jovana or Ivana (Joanna). If their names were Djordje and Jovana, there's a big chance he was Serbian, living in Croatia, because Djordje and Jovana are usually Serbian names... If Goran & Ivana, Louis could also be Croat living in Croatia. Hope it was helpfull, contact me if need more ifo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.29.173.169 (talk • contribs) 16:03, 24 August 2005.

Yes. George could be Đorđe or Juraj. Why did you add Ivanica? We don't really know anything for sure, do we? --Joy [shallot] 22:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Not Serb

Just because someone mistook him for a Serb doesnt make him one....

No proof for him being a Croatian either. Who did make mistake and when? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.252.34.126 (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

The fact Louis Cukela is listed as an Serbian-American is so wrong.... he has no known link to Serbia apart from being called it once in a book (by mistake).....

The name pronounced "Chu-ke-la sounds very Dalmatian in origin.

Solta is one of the closest islands to Split, in fact you can see it from Split. If his family was from Solta or Split i would say they are Dalmatian/Croatian and not Serbian.

For mine... many Dalmatians were called other backgrounds so its good to correct this for future generations to read. I think calling him Serb is a big mistake.

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