Talk:Lochry's Defeat

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An entry from Lochry's Defeat appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know? column on December 7, 2006.

[edit] Thank you...

... for making this! The type and quality of work that gets done on Wikipedia never ceases to amaze me! mstroeck 09:02, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's very nice of you to say. —Kevin 15:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Notes from a descendant of a participant

Two additional points. In Allan Eckert's "Dark and Bloody River," he states that my ancestor, Maj. Charles Cracraft, lured the Lochry party to the shore. Naturally, I am pleased to see there is a viable alternative explanation. I have an old, typed transcript of an interview with my namesake, Maj Chs. Cracraft's son, copied from the Draper Collection, a series of researches on incidents of the era (see below) that agrees with the version listed here. Second, William, stated that his father had experience, as did many frontiersman, in curing wounds, and was instrumental in curing Chief Joe Brandt's sword cut, which William had been told by his father was due to Brandt's flourishing the sword carelessly. Certainly, it seems unlikely Brandt would have survived a fight with Girty as the three brothers were deadly fighters, according to Eckert's books.

My ancestor, a prisoner before the slaughter began, fully expected to be killed with the rest, but was saved when Brandt told him, "see, you will not all be killed, we are not savages." My ancestor spent some years as prisoner, partly in Detroit, and upon being returned at the end of the war, was offered payment for his service time in Continental script, but refused it, saying what he did was for his country and he expected no payment.

Draper Collection, according to the Wisconson Historical Society website, "covers primarily the period between the French and Indian War and the War of 1812 (ca. 1755-1815). The geographic concentration is on what Draper and his contemporaries called the "Trans-Allegheny West," which included the western Carolinas and Virginia, some portions of Georgia and Alabama, the entire Ohio River valley, and parts of the Mississippi River valley." http://www.wisconsinhistory.org/military/draper/. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Billcracraft (talk • contribs).