Talk:Lochner v. New York

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Very interesting article. To think that so many people believe that judicial activism started in the '60s! One question, though: how often have there been cases before the U.S. Supreme Court that weren't controversial? ☺ — Jeff Q 00:57, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)

well.. i think the court is fair for the bakery how would they work for 60 hours in one week??

THINK if you were them can you work that long??

Believe me, I'm all for judicial review, but is "liberty of contract" ever specifically mentioned in the 14th. Even if it isn't I really like Lochner because it showed the SC still had balls after the Taney Court era. Go judicial activism, but only if we the people agree it's not too activist, how fair is that?

[edit] Neutrality

The second paragraph specifically seems slanted and lacking in support for its strong assertions. It compares poorly in this regard with the overlapping Lochner era article. ENeville 18:57, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

I'd be fine with deleting the "judicial overreaching" sentence, absent a quote in support. However, the claim in the second sentence of the substance of criticism the decision has received ("the Court discarded sound constitutional interpretation in favor of personal ideology") is supported by Holmes' dissent, first of all. As far as "most legal scholars," etc., subsequently criticizing the decision, that is currently without a citation, though it is accurate; it shouldn't be too hard to drum up some general statements from law review articles about Lochner being "universally discredited." If it's alright with you, I think we should remove the POV tag from the article, but leave the citation needed tag in place. Postdlf 21:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Seems reasonable. I don't mind the statement per se, it just seems pretty strong without specific backup. I still don't have an entirely clear picture of intended use of general references versus specific citations in Wikipedia. ENeville 03:43, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changes by 66.92.160.32

I am an academic and a Lochner expert, and on Feb. 1 I made some changes that corrected inaccuracies in the article. For example, the Bakeshop Act was not passed in 1897, but in 1895 and repassed in 1896, and the relevant line of cases that led to Roe started with Meyer v. Nebraska in 1923, not Pierce in 1925. Meyer itself cited Lochner, and was not a separate line of cases, as the article suggests. These changes should not have been deleted.66.92.160.32 16:14, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

My bad; I won't revert again. In the future, you might want to consider registering an account, explaining your changes in the edit summary box, and adding footnotes with references. Unsourced and unexplained changes by anonymous IP accounts are typically vandalism, which causes all such anonymous edits to be viewed suspiciously. Also, it's better to make your changes in as few edits as possible, by using the "show preview" button to consider how your changes look instead of saving right away. Cheers, Postdlf 20:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)