Talk:Lists of tropical cyclone names/Archive 1
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Recent Changes
Noticed some recent changes and back and forth on this page. The WMO committee responsible for retiring names and changing naming conventions (and a lot of other more important things) does not meet until early spring, before the next hurricane season. Therefore, it is impossible for any of the names to have been changed yet. There is some talk they might consider adding a few names to the North Atlantic list to try to avoid going into the Greek alphabet again. Until any of this happens, it doesn't belong on Wikipedia. Peyna 13:42, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
- Vandalism is quite a harsh word for someone trying to update the list of names or mentioning names that will be retired. unsigned comment from 152.163.100.70
- "mentioning names that will be retired" - There is no guarantee that any name will be retired, until they are retired it is speculation, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Peyna 14:02, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
- FYI...many of the edits from 152.163.100.70 (talk • contribs) consist of vandalism which has been going on for over a year. See the history page for Collier Services as an example. This user (or these users) is a notorious troll who has posted from many, many IP addresses and registered accounts (accounts that have been permanently banned as vandal accounts) including but certainly not limited to, or have similar posting styles but may not be the same person/people:
- "mentioning names that will be retired" - There is no guarantee that any name will be retired, until they are retired it is speculation, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Peyna 14:02, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Dvirgueza (talk • contribs)
- Pewyyy (talk • contribs)
- 01574871 (talk • contribs)
- 234567292 (talk • contribs)
- 17.255.240.2 (talk • contribs)
- 24.105.138.40 (talk • contribs)
- 64.12.116.6 (talk • contribs)
- 64.12.116.70 (talk • contribs)
- 65.13.23.14 (talk • contribs)
- 68.167.45.99 (talk • contribs)
- 69.112.54.11 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.100.5 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.100.6 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.100.68 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.100.70 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.101.14 (talk • contribs)
- 152.163.100.135 (talk • contribs)
- 205.188.116.7 (talk • contribs)
- 205.188.117.71 (talk • contribs)
- 209.2.60.76 (talk • contribs)
- --Viriditas 10:17, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, many of those (particularly the 152.163 block) are AOL IPs. --Golbez 15:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Any way to make an article editable only by registered users for a period of time, or is a complete protect the only option? Peyna 17:29, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- At present no "semi-protect" option exists. --Golbez 22:04, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- That would be a wonderful solution for all of Wikipedia tropical cyclone articles! Hurricanehink 20:52, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- From what I've seen, their is a dispute between whether the 2011 should be added or not. Until it stops, their is nothing we can do. Locking the page would make it so that that only that user can edit, and the purpose of this site is to allow all users to edit. However, the owners of Wikipedia should explore blocking certain users and IP adresses from editing pages. EddieSegoura 22:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- And, from what I've seen, the "dispute" is between you and your sockpuppets. --Viriditas 06:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Please stop putting My name on this list. I only have this name and I never logged in as Dvirgueza or Pewyyy. How would You feel if someone called You names like that?
- Your name is on that list because it is associated with those accounts, many of whom have posted to this page while you claim they are "separate" people. --Viriditas 06:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I don't belive You, I only created one account. I never heard of Dvirgueza, Pewyyy, or all those other names and numbers I'm listed with! EddieSegoura 07:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- On this talk page, you have commented as 152.163.100.70, 64.12.116.70 and EddieSegoura, have you not? --Viriditas 07:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, the only IP address I've used is the second IP Address to point out the controversy on the 2011 season, as below. The first one is an AOL IP address. It's a generic IP address and that IP address can refer to any AOL user. I took My name off the list because I thought You were accused Me of creating all those accounts. That is the only IP Address address I used. All the other names You listed are names that were created by someone I don't know. Those, Verditas, are the facts.
- Eddie, you originally posted as 69.112.54.11 (talk • contribs) on the main page, remember? I asked you to register on your talk page and you created your current account, however, you are still posting as 69.112.54.11, 64.12.116.70, 24.105.138.40 and others. Are you forgetting to login? Contrary to what you claim, it looks like you also edited as 152.163.100.70 [1], engaging in the same kind of behavior (changing comments of other editors and using the same uppercase and spelling mistakes). Strangely enough, you made the same spelling mistake as 152.163.100.70 did two hours later on your own talk page (Vandalisim) [2], pretty much proving it was you. As for the other IP addresses engaged in reversions on the main page, they all appear to be one user, namely you. Furthermore, it looks like you recently created the Third Rail (talk • contribs) account to duplicate a "keep" vote made by EddieSegora on a recent AfD vote. IIRC, the other accounts were also accused of doing this and/or changing comments and introducing spelling mistakes, particularly Pewyyy, Dvirgueza, 234567292, and 01574871. In conclusion, you appear to have contradicted yourself, as you have admitted to posting under other IP addresses on Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/EddieSegoura as well as User talk:EddieSegoura. --Viriditas 09:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Viriditas, yes I did experment with editing this page under 64.112.54.11 (talk • contribs). I created the new account and I do forget to log in sometimes. I share this computer with people who know about this site, so I asked them to make accounts also to avoid IP address conflicts. However, You put up a whole lost if names and claim that I am associated with all of them. The other IP address I used was 64.12.116.70 (talk • contribs) when I pointed out the 2011 season. 152.163.100.70 (talk • contribs) is an AOL IP address that can be used by any signed on user, I might have used that address back them to fix My talk page, but I stopped editing on AOL since a lot of vandalisim comes from these IPs. That's the only edit from that address. All the other names/IP Addresses belong to someone else.
- But, Eddie, there is also 24.105.138.40 (talk • contribs). And what about Third Rail (talk • contribs)? I'll make you a deal: I'll remove the list if you promise to try and login and avoid using other accounts to vote or wage edit wars on this and other pages. You also need to be more careful when you edit. To most Wikipedians, it appears that you are vandalizing AfD pages [3], however I can imagine a situation where this is due to user or server error. If you agree to these things, I'll take the list down. --Viriditas 10:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- User:64.112.54.11 quoted by Eddie above should be User:69.112.54.11. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll try to log on in the future. I can't get credit for each page I create or edit under an IP Address, but don't be quick to assume I posted without emailing Me why You think I trolling or spying on You.
- But, Eddie, there is also 24.105.138.40 (talk • contribs). And what about Third Rail (talk • contribs)? I'll make you a deal: I'll remove the list if you promise to try and login and avoid using other accounts to vote or wage edit wars on this and other pages. You also need to be more careful when you edit. To most Wikipedians, it appears that you are vandalizing AfD pages [3], however I can imagine a situation where this is due to user or server error. If you agree to these things, I'll take the list down. --Viriditas 10:12, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Viriditas, yes I did experment with editing this page under 64.112.54.11 (talk • contribs). I created the new account and I do forget to log in sometimes. I share this computer with people who know about this site, so I asked them to make accounts also to avoid IP address conflicts. However, You put up a whole lost if names and claim that I am associated with all of them. The other IP address I used was 64.12.116.70 (talk • contribs) when I pointed out the 2011 season. 152.163.100.70 (talk • contribs) is an AOL IP address that can be used by any signed on user, I might have used that address back them to fix My talk page, but I stopped editing on AOL since a lot of vandalisim comes from these IPs. That's the only edit from that address. All the other names/IP Addresses belong to someone else.
- Eddie, you originally posted as 69.112.54.11 (talk • contribs) on the main page, remember? I asked you to register on your talk page and you created your current account, however, you are still posting as 69.112.54.11, 64.12.116.70, 24.105.138.40 and others. Are you forgetting to login? Contrary to what you claim, it looks like you also edited as 152.163.100.70 [1], engaging in the same kind of behavior (changing comments of other editors and using the same uppercase and spelling mistakes). Strangely enough, you made the same spelling mistake as 152.163.100.70 did two hours later on your own talk page (Vandalisim) [2], pretty much proving it was you. As for the other IP addresses engaged in reversions on the main page, they all appear to be one user, namely you. Furthermore, it looks like you recently created the Third Rail (talk • contribs) account to duplicate a "keep" vote made by EddieSegora on a recent AfD vote. IIRC, the other accounts were also accused of doing this and/or changing comments and introducing spelling mistakes, particularly Pewyyy, Dvirgueza, 234567292, and 01574871. In conclusion, you appear to have contradicted yourself, as you have admitted to posting under other IP addresses on Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/EddieSegoura as well as User talk:EddieSegoura. --Viriditas 09:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, the only IP address I've used is the second IP Address to point out the controversy on the 2011 season, as below. The first one is an AOL IP address. It's a generic IP address and that IP address can refer to any AOL user. I took My name off the list because I thought You were accused Me of creating all those accounts. That is the only IP Address address I used. All the other names You listed are names that were created by someone I don't know. Those, Verditas, are the facts.
- On this talk page, you have commented as 152.163.100.70, 64.12.116.70 and EddieSegoura, have you not? --Viriditas 07:16, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- I don't belive You, I only created one account. I never heard of Dvirgueza, Pewyyy, or all those other names and numbers I'm listed with! EddieSegoura 07:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Your name is on that list because it is associated with those accounts, many of whom have posted to this page while you claim they are "separate" people. --Viriditas 06:54, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- Please stop putting My name on this list. I only have this name and I never logged in as Dvirgueza or Pewyyy. How would You feel if someone called You names like that?
- And, from what I've seen, the "dispute" is between you and your sockpuppets. --Viriditas 06:14, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
- From what I've seen, their is a dispute between whether the 2011 should be added or not. Until it stops, their is nothing we can do. Locking the page would make it so that that only that user can edit, and the purpose of this site is to allow all users to edit. However, the owners of Wikipedia should explore blocking certain users and IP adresses from editing pages. EddieSegoura 22:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- I forgive You, Viriditas. If you suspect Me being linked to another person/IP address, email me first and we can discuss it privately.
- Thanks, Eddie, but I prefer open records. --Viriditas 07:12, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- Eddie, I've restored the comments. The sock puppets haven't disappeared and at least one was created after you partially agreed. You have to agree to stop creating sock puppets for AfD votes as well. --Viriditas 07:50, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
- I forgive You, Viriditas. If you suspect Me being linked to another person/IP address, email me first and we can discuss it privately.
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Update: The issue regarding Me as a "troll" or"sock" has been resolved and My name should no longer be included in that list. Thank You -- Eddie 11:58, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
