Talk:List of violinists

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Contents 1 A Key is needed here 2 List of Indian violinists needs checking 3 Electric Violinists 4 Maybe boring beyond belief but it needs to be said: We need a cutoff calibration for who is notable enough and who is not.

[edit] A Key is needed here

Excuse me, but we have a definite problem here- the asteriks and crosses beside the dates (e.g. - Johann Sebastian Bach *1681) don't really have a key so one could explain why there is a cross and/or an asterik beside the years in the first place. If you are the one who put the crosses and asteriks on the page, can you please add a key? Thank you, if you did so.

TL 00:08, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the star indicates year of birth, and the cross (or dagger,) the year of death. I just spent some time looking through various style manuals along the lines of Wikipedia:Naming conventions without finding anything on the subject...

Just plain Bill 03:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC) (aha! just found it. Click on star or dagger above.)

I just eliminated all those stars and daggers, as well as the rampant date overlinking. The marks are overly fussy formatting that is neither in keeping with other lists here (Wikipedia) nor helpful; readers can make out that, with few exceptions, dates in the form (xxxx - yyyy) indicate birth & death dates). (The one exception I can think of is PDQ Bach, whose dates are given in reverse order.) +ILike2BeAnonymous 20:37, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Bravo. Another blow struck for truth and good sense, which amounts to a similar thing to the elimination of foolishness and fussiness. Thanks, L2BA, & I mean it. Best, Just plain Bill 05:58, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of Indian violinists needs checking

Anybody else notice that these links are almost all red? Can someone who actually knows something about this genre check these names for a) notability and b) spelling? I'm skeptical that these are all "good" names. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 18:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Electric Violinists

I understand this instrument to be quite different to acoustic violin and hope to find other electric violinists who share this opinion. This appears to be a new profession but there are clearly examples of violinists playing electric violin, in many genres of music. Currently studying electric violin in classical educational establishments (in the UK) is not generally acceptable on the grounds that there are no teachers and it is not strongly enough associated with classical music... an interesting discussion of its own, maybe.

Would it be unacceptable of me to post a brief article outlining my work? I notice Vanity articles do not always rule out self-written pieces. Thank you. BAH 10:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is it you want to add here—a link to your site? or an addendum to the article? And what exactly would either one add to the article in terms of information?

As I've pointed out in messages on your user page, it's a bit unseemly for someone to appear anxious to post links to their site here. Not saying that your contribution isn't possibly valuable, but it still doesn't look good. Better if material is added by disinterested parties. ILike2BeAnonymous 17:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the thoughts. Not a link to my site, no (but considering my site does contain a compendium of hundereds of violinists and their recordings, it would add to the article). Nor did I mean an addendum to the article I think (other than adding violinists I can think of, as of course there are some names missing here. I will get around to that if no one else does). Why would a disinterested party bother? Sorry, I don't understand you. What I meant was, is it at all possible for me to add a few words of basic detail from the red link under the electric violinist heading knowing that would mean writing about myself or, is that always considered unseemly? BAH 07:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Why would adding a few words about a violinist necessarily entail writing about yourself? Do you suffer from a case of compulsive vanity? +ILike2BeAnonymous 17:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

It wouldn't and no. I shall hunt further afield for an anwser to my question, thanks anyway ILike2BeAnonymous BAH 17:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

In that case, why not go ahead and add your information to the article? What's the worst that could happen? +ILike2BeAnonymous 18:02, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Maybe boring beyond belief but it needs to be said: We need a cutoff calibration for who is notable enough and who is not.

This page is in danger of becoming a list of "famous violinists and people who want to be on the list, as well as people who have a fan who wants them on the list."

I applaud the efforts of ILike2BeAnonymous as he tries to keep things from sprawling out of hand, Maybe it's time to delete all the red links, saving the list for violinists who have an article on this wikipedia. I'm willing to entertain the suggestion that an article on any other language's pedia qualifies the person for inclusion... __Just plain Bill 04:57, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding the latter (red links), I'm going to tag all of them with {{fact}} to indicate lack of supporting evidence for their inclusion. After a fair interval—say a couple weeks?—those entries still tagged can be removed. This gives people a chance to provide citations. +ILike2BeAnonymous 07:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough, sounds like a plan to me... __Just plain Bill 12:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Then why were violinists with Wiki links eliminated? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.218.120.201 (talk • contribs) 6:40, 17 March 2007.

Having a wikilink only means there is a 'pedia article about the subject. Consider the wiki process, and tell me, please, if having a wikipedia article is proof of notability... articles get deleted all the time for that exact reason. __Just plain Bill 20:02, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

There are also criteria relevant to musicians. Given the nature of violin pedagogy, winning several awards, local concertizing, and studying (for however long or brief a time) with a famous teacher, all are good first steps, but not indicators of notability. To put it more brutally, not every kid that goes to Julliard or Berklee belongs on this list just yet. Just plain Bill