Talk:List of unused highways
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This article was nominated for deletion on 27 December 2006. The result of the discussion was speedy keep and move to list of unused highways. |
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This article was nominated for deletion on 20 October 2006. The result of the discussion was NO CONSENSUS defaulting to keep. |
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[edit] Cleaning up
This is probably the second or third section to have a title like this, but we need to weed out many of these entries, which is hard to do. We all won't agree on it. Unless I do what I did with I-95 and take it aside, rewrite it, weed out anything less than a 50ft stub or something I can't find useful information in, we need to clean this up and make this article presentable. I don't mind sitting here (when I get the chance) and going through every one of these entries and deciding what looks good enough to be here. But I won't do it without first bringing it up; that would be too unilateral, against what Wikipedia stands for, and although I love and preach being bold, that's beyond bold. Pretty much, I'd say it would have to be significantly seen, either from the air or from the road, be a source of intrigue as to what used to be there or should have been there (whether we actually know what should have been there, a quarter mile of graded, unpaved highway is intriguing, so is a partially-completed ramp that perhaps extends above the roadway, unsure what was going there, but I'd want to know), and a third criteria that I'm not sure of yet. --MPD T / C 02:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Per the requirements of prior discussions here and in the AFDs, committments to cite the stubs in each state were to be made. However, people keep adding statements such as, "As you can see in the image, the stub does exist" or "You can see where the old grading went and thats where the former road was". THOSE, along with the images, are NOT citations or reliable sources. As such, I will begin culling out entries by commenting them out, until such effort is made to properly find cites for each, in an effort to clean this page up. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 18:19, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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- You have my support. Using an aerial/satellite image as a reference is flawed, as the image could represent a number of things: a roadway that just happens to carry little traffic but is open for use, an unpaved roadway open for use, a roadway under construction, the remains of a removed roadway, etc. --Bossi (talk ;; contribs) 21:47, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I would also like to help clean the page up. I may be guilty of using words and images as cites maybe because I am unclear as to what you're looking for as far as a reference. To me, a reference would cover language like "this road was intended to..." where as an image shows exactly what is being described. If someone could help me understand, it would help me properly edit the page. Thanks! Bodo920 22:12, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Rockford, Illinois I-39
At its intersection with US 20, don't they have it graded there for a future road to go north? I seem to remember it from back in my time in Illinois. DandyDan2007 13:11, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- It is graded as a odd-shaped cloverleaf, with one of the loops as a flyover (39 taking a turn to go south). However, I believe it has been like that for a long time and I don't know of any plans to take a road north from this interchange (I am around Rockford quite often, but don't know everything). There is a minor stub of pavement there along with two graded loops and one graded roadbed. There's also a lane drop and a wide shoulder should you want to go west on US 20. I'd add that it sucks to drive through, as the exit's only one lane and you're often stuck behind a truck. Bodo920 22:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Cobbs Creek/Crosstown Expy Stub
The maps I looked over don't show any ghost ramp, which might have been converted to some other ramp. Anybody (local) know what happened? Bodo920 22:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] San Diego
How should I add the ghost on ramp to I-5 at the I-5/CA-163 interchange [1] or the Richmond St. ghost bridge [2]in San Diego? Bodo920 23:18, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Baltimore
Found first by Seicer, [3] appears to be the old road bed of Bethlehem Blvd. and N. Point Blvd. Looks like they redid the intersection so that there are separate on/off ramps for Bethlehem and N. Point. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bodo920 (talk • contribs).
The old configuration can be seen here; the topo shows that there was a freeway there before I-695. By the way, please do not use neologisms like "ghost ramp". --NE2 00:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, but can it be added?Bodo920 20:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] DC
I propose deleting the "I-695 terminates at Pennsylvania Ave." submission because it is not really a stub. It's been converted into an access road to the stadium on game days and is not blocked off. All lanes and ramps are in use, including the one from I-695 to I-295 southbound, which was previously closed, and from I-295 northbound to I-695 eastbound. The latter is closed by zipper lanes on non-game days.Bodo920 20:41, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
