Talk:List of ships in British Columbia

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Contents 1 Notes on first draft 2 Research to do for someone who feels like it 3 German vessels 4 Cut-off date or other limits 5 Hope 6 Draft headings for table format

[edit] Notes on first draft

There may be some duplication here with the List of Royal Navy ships in the Pacific Northwest - certain names like the Ruby, Arthur and Resolution stand out to me, but there may have been, for example, an SS Ruby as well as an HMS Ruby, but I haven't dug into the source texts for details. Spanish ship-designations are given without "SS" although this is customary in English - I seem to recall seeing SS Aranzazu so maybe that's an English-language convention for non-anglophone vessels; if anyone knows it, or knows the proper designations for these vessels, please amend their entries accordingly; similarly I've left off the SS off Russian ships, and tried to disambig stuff like SS Massachusetts (Northwest Coast) because doubtless there are other more, um, notable vessels by that name (also SS Enterprise (Northwest Coast)). Inland routes are partially represented here, but the cut-off date so far is 1871 and only a few after that I just happen to know about; Pethick's other book First Explorations of the Northwest Coast is a treasure-trove here if someone can find it, and I'd imagine Cate Blanchett's Circle of Time has an interesting ship register; as also shipping registers for the Inside Passage and coastal shipping companies. This list is intended to be reformatted with a table a la List of ghost towns in British Columbia giving the vessel's commander, nature of vessel, flag, era, shipwreck y/n and so on. Some mode of organizing these into British/Canadian, American, Austrian, French, Spanish, Russian, Portuguese etc sections might be good; none are numerous enough, except maybe for the Spanish, to warrant a separate list (American ones are so omnipresent in BC history that it's pointless to separate them....).Skookum1 04:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Research to do for someone who feels like it

One way to compile/expand this list is to use the BC Archives search page (via the external links) and just search for all records on "ships" and/or "vessels"; it was a bit easier with the Royal Navy ones as I could search for "HMS" and get a lot of direct hits; might work well for "MV" but obviously problematic for "SS". I don't have the patience to go through the archives this time around, though; most additions/entries here are from indexes of history books....Skookum1 04:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Another fun task would to go through the list that's there and find ones that there are articles for, but are redlinked because the article name is different from the ship name (eg, with the year built or (ship) in brackets after the name).Bobanny 04:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] German vessels

Other than ones here during the pre-Great War shipping/real estate heyday, when German capital was omnipresent; I'm meaning the offshore wartime scoutings during both World Wars; can't remember which vessels right now but some caused alarms; some their identity was found out later, as with a U-boat, but I can't remember its name.Skookum1 08:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cut-off date or other limits

There's got to be a cut-off date for this list, I guess, as we can't ilst all contemporary vessels, other than those of note (liners, military, famous tugboats and fishboats etc); but we can't list all visiting vessels, military commercial private, obviously. Not sure what time or other limit to impose here. Thoughts?Skookum1 08:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hope

Not sure if the SS Hope is the ship supposed to be on this list. There is also the Hope (ship) that traded around 1790, but I don't know if both ships have ties to BC. Aboutmovies 18:31, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Draft headings for table format

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Ship	Other names	Captain	Type	Tons	Draft	Registry (flag)	Owner	Events/locations	Dates in BC	Demise	Comments
SS Abyssinia	Abyssinia		Steamship: passenger and freight liner	3651 tons			CPR (chartered from Cunard)	1887, TransPacific record on inaugural CPR shipment from Orient to NY/UK	1887-1891	destroyed by fire	First of CPR liners, pre-Empress series

Thoughts on this later, maybe some other info as I know other columns had occurred to me.Skookum1 02:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)