Talk:List of road junctions in the United Kingdom

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Junction List Talk Page

Some rules I've tried to apply when creating the list:

Where northbound and southbound accesses of the same junction have different names (historical reasons where junctions that were separate have been combined, for example) both should be listed with a "see also...." in comments. e.g. langford turn on the A1.

Any Junction pages created from this should be added to the category of junctions in the uk.

Formatting - generally get rid of unhelpful "unclass." street names, unless name cannot be found.

Use any type of coordinate system is acceptible, provided it uses standard wiki {{coor xxx}} or {{oscoor|ref|ref}} tags.

Old hidden streetmap comments should be removed from the code when updating an entry - they're a hangover from data imported and no longer required.

Links to the junction pages should be to a page about the junction, and not a locality or the object in question at the junction (e.g. Marble Arch) - these descriptions can be linked from the notes field (as it would be inappropriate to change the marble arch page to make it more junction orientated.

Roads and motorways should be linked where possible - try and use the format [[M8 motorway|M8]] as this looks tidier, particularly in the cases where the numbered road also has a name (which itself may also have an entry to link. At the moment, I'm not putting links to B roads in, as there are so few with their own pages.

LI tags should be used for bulleted lists of the roads that intersect at the junction (some road names which are very long could be confusing if they split over multiple lines).

If a road has changed number since the junction has been there, the text (formerly Axxx) should be used. If the junction was not there (e.g. it has been created because of a bypass or something) before the road number change, this is not necessary.

Official names should be used in the list with each entry only appearing once, with an 'aka' in notes if it is known by any other names, or has changed name.

Of course, any of this guidance up here is for debate.....

C2r 12:44, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Change in Title 2 Historic Counties 3 Layout 4 Point?

[edit] Change in Title

I was always taught to capitalise all words apart from closed class words in a title context, or at least all nouns (particularly as in this instance it is the Road Junctions we are trying to draw attention to). That's why other users used to a different syntax may have found the capitalisation objectionable. Could we please have discussion here before such changes are made? C2r 20:16, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming_conventions#Lowercase_second_and_subsequent_words. MRSC • Talk 21:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Historic Counties

At the moment, the location field doesn't follow a single method or another - sometimes it shows the nearest town, where applicable; with probably the historic county, though I've not been consistent. In London I've tried to put current London Boroughs along with the nearest 'settlement' location.

I think we should be using current administrative counties, as stated in Wikipedias policy, which I will start trying to do on new entries - however, existing entries will have to wait to be corrected (as it's probably the least important piece of information on the page!) C2r 08:16, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

It looks a bit like postal counties. MRSC • Talk 21:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Generally current administrative counties are used on the town/village pages and I think we should do the same here. Regan123 21:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Good work in improving the consistency of the London Boroughs and Yorkshire entries, MRSC - it's something that has been on my to-do list since forever! I think I agree with Regan re: using administrative counties, though of course it's not something I'd lose sleep over (the name of the junction, the roads intersected, and grid ref are far more important!) C2r 16:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Layout

I changed the layout to the standard class="wikitable". See Wikipedia:Accessibility . MRSC • Talk 21:53, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm fine with that - I would have used that format initially if I had realized how to do it! C2r 16:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Point?

I don't seee the point of some of the things in the list. For example a completely non-notable junction #(which it isn't exactly) is where Theobalds Park Road meets Cattlegate Road. Simply south 14:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

There's a grid reference to find it. I don't see the point in lots of things on wikipedia, like entries for each railway station, or pages on singles that have been released by a band. This page aims to be a list of junctions as referred to by both the general public (i.e. in common use), and the highways authority (for repairing/stating in SIs and the public noticies). Junctions which are non-notable in themselves don't have a separate detailed page showing their history. I would envisage a few more that are on the list should have that notability, but many do not. C2r 07:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)