Talk:List of political parties in Germany

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I think it's wrong to call the DP an historical party because it yet existing, but perhaps somebody has strong arguments for leaving things as they are, so I don't change it yet.--Kiffahh 23:52, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

There is a mistake. The CDU/CSU is not right of center. They're just center.

CDU/CSU are right of center like the SPD is left of center.

This is a matter of semantics, but most people would consider these parties to be right of center. Electionworld 20:42, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

The Left Party is no communist party, they have been in government in Berlin and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern.

CDU/CSU aren´t centre-right. They´re just center. The Left Party is no full communist party, but they are in parts communism. For example it gives the "Kommunistische Plattform" (Communism Part), the "Marxistisches Forum" (Marxism Forum) or "Cuba Si" (Yes to the existence of state Cuba). All are far-left. Deutscher Patriot 22:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

You make it seem that all German parties are centrist: there is no differentiation between SPD, CDU and FDP. According to Gallagher, Laver and Mair (2001) Representative Government in Modern Europe (pp.178-182) The CDU can be characterized as a centre right, conservative party. Could you provide me any academic references for the supposed centrism of the CDU? - C mon 00:00, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

First of all I want to say that all this parties claim for themselves to be a center-party.

Examples: Die Mitte ist rot (Center is red) In allusion to the german-flag (SPD), Die neue Mitte (The new center) (SPD), CDU - Die moderne Volkspartei der Mitte (CDU - The modern peoples party of center) (CDU), Die goldene Mitte (The golden center) (FDP). Even Günther Beckstein, left wing of CSU, said: "Die CSU ist eine Partei der Mitte, in der sich auch die demokratische Rechte wohlfühlen muss" (The CSU is a centrist-party, in that also the democratic rights have to feel fine). And of course it gives differences between this three parties, this has nothing to do with that. The "left/right-system" is anyshow obsolete. For other explains look at my talk. Deutscher Patriot 14:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I've never seen the CDU described as anything but "centre-right." That all parties try to claim the center in their campaign materials is irrelevant. I do, however, wonder at the designation of the FDP as "right." In some ways (economics, particularly) it is more right wing than the CDU/CSU, but in other ways it is more to the left. I think it should also be described as center-right. john k 15:34, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Do you live in Germany? In Germany nobody still use the "Left/Right-System". It is obsolete. So you have to orientate on Definitions. And I think parties, which extra call up for debates, whether it is allowed to be patriotism or not, or in they are Minister-Presidents, who entitle themselves "Arbeiterführer" (King of Workers) can´t be in whole as right of center classed. And FDP should be right? This is nonsense. Deutscher Patriot 16:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

One of the parties is called the "Left Party," for god's sake. I don't live in Germany, obviously, but I don't trust anything you say about the subject, as you're clearly exaggerating to a ridiculous extent - all Europeans that I know use left and right as the basic terms of political discourse. I will note that I said that the FDP should be centre-right, not "right," as it was before. john k 16:25, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

This is not a case of where you live, but it is a case of getting sources: clear academic sources. I've already give you Peter Mair's book as a source, can you provide me anything else than your intuition or party slogans to prove your statements? C mon 20:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

you're going to be waiting a long time, C mon. john k 20:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)