Talk:List of people who have been considered avatars
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I have deleted the Image of Buddha from the list of avataras. The thought is repugnant to all buddhists. Buddha can never be an avatara of vishnu. Buddha was an ardent critic of Rigvedic religion ( now called as Hindu religion). I have also changed "Derived Religions" to " Other Religions" The earlier was a mischevious statement implying that other religions are derived from Hinduism.
The obstinate attempt to appropriate the name of Buddha by Bhramins (the priestly class of Hindus)is malicious. Gravely threatened by the onslaught of Buddhism which had almost destroyed the stranglehold of Bhramins over the society, they started usurping the Buddhas religion by calling him an Avatar of Visnu, in order to destroy buddhism,(Buddhism is highly critical of Bhramin supremacy and the foundation of hinduism, The Caste System). This started when the Bhramin commander, Piyushmitra shunga, of the last Mauryan Emperor,assasinated him and took over the throne. He systematically started the persecution of Buddhist monks leading to partial annhilation of buddhism in India. Read Babasaheb Ambedkars Thoughts on the same subject on http://www.ambedkar.org/ambcd/19A.Revolution%20and%20Counter%20Rev.in%20Ancient%20India%20PART%20I.htm
Did Shirdi Sai Baba claim to be an avatar? That sounds doubtful to me. I have two books about him at home but I need a lot of time to check them. I remember him saying suggestive things like "Happy are those who believe their guru to be Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva" (or something like that) in the Shri Sai Satcharita (holy book of their followers) but this is not a direct claim, I think. I think however that the burden of proof is on the person who added the entry to provide citations. Andries 21:31, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
- I simply copied what was listed in the article avatar to create this list. I really have no strong opinion of the authenticity of what was there. In fact I was hoping this would evolve to become noticeably different then the list there.--T. Anthony 14:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
- Renamed the article with the same syntax as the List of people considered to be deities, for NPOV and consistency. Also added "Hinduism and derived religions" to broaden the scope for inclusion. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t • @ 05:12, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Since when was budda born on the same day as charles manson?
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- Oops. I'm surprised no one noticed that earlier. I created this by taking the table from the "considered to be deity" one and changing the names. I'll fix that.--T. Anthony 04:22, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] J. Krishnamurti?
Was Jiddu Krishnamurti considered an avatar by the Theosophical Society and their followers? The J. Krishnamurti article says they "believed him to be a vehicle for a prophesied World Teacher (see Second Coming; Maitreya Buddha)" ... I went to that page and I guess that would technically mean he was considered a bhodisattva and not an avatar, but then he's not on the list of boddhisatvas.
I originally thought that maybe avatar specifically means an incarnation of a deity from the Vedic/Hindu religion but then I saw that the page says "and other religions" so I thought I would bring this up. Thanks! --24.18.35.120
Shouldn't Jesus Christ be included here, not to mention Lord Krishna and Bhagawan Nityananda MahaDave 21:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
