Talk:List of notable Scouts

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[edit] Title

Should be List of famous Scouts, as Scout would be capitalized. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Since the intro refers to Eagle rank and the BSA, this should be List of famous American Scouts. Zaian 18:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Evrik: If you insist on List of notable Scouts, then you have to get rid of: "These notable individuals were Scouts or Scouters, but did not complete the Eagle Rank in the Boy Scouts of America (BSA)." as that is BSA-centric, plus you have no non-BSA people on the list, otherwise, put it back to the name I had. Rlevse 09:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I think, you should do two things, if you want to maintain the article as List of nable Scouts. First remove the BSA-sentence; it excludes everybody outside of BSA from being a notable Scout (or Guide). Second please insert some international content.
With the actual content, the title is misleading. --jergen 17:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I don't have the time to make the edits today, but will get to it early next week. FWIW, if there had been greater discussion about this before rlevese made the change I would have made it a higher priority to rework the page. evrik 22:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I've moved all the BSA content into a subsection. Other sections can be added for other countries. Zaian 08:50, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

    • Thank you. I encourage everyone to expnad this page. evrik 16:47, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Evrik: what I don't understand yet: this article is for just famous scouts of nowadays, or in the history? --Kun25 10:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Other languages

There is now a page in:


I have tried to generate interest in the list on these pages:

and these pages as well:


The Spanish page, es:Lista_de_scouts_notables, has been deletd 2x. --evrik 16:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inclusion

Is this list only for notables who were Scouts as a youth, or does it also include Scouters? --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Good question. I think we've not ever established that. Hmmm....Rlevse 18:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
    • The number of notable BSA Scouters is enormous. Then there are honoraries, like every US president. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I have no preference. --evrik 20:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
      • I think exclude honoraries, include all kinds of scouts and scouters but only the most notable. And there must be some balance between the US and non-US scouts on the list. --Egel Reaction? 12:23, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
        • I'm going to disagree on the balance question. If the BSA gets too big, then it should be split to a new article. --Gadget850 ( Ed)
        • Balance is a question of how many wikipedians are active on the page. If most users active on the page are US and hence know more about US Scouts, that's no reason to limit the US size, but a call to non-US users to update the sections they are familiar with. I agree with Gadget that if the US section gets big enough, just split it off. Rlevse 12:48, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

There seems to be too much negative focus (in print) on who didn't complete their Eagle or some other high award. This is not scout-like. Either someone fits on one list or another, and should be listed as such without rhetorical comments regarding what they "did not" accomplish. The fact that they were a Scout is terrific enough, and if they reached "Eagle" or some other high award, simply put them on that list. User:Wikibones

[edit] Section titles

Currently the titles use "in", for example "List of notable Scouts in Canada". In my opinion this should be "from". For example, Rich Little and Michael J Fox now live in and are associated with the US. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 18:40, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Actually, we can avoid all of that by simply listing the country. This also puts the titles into compliance with the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings) guideline- "Avoid restating the subject of the article or of an enclosing section in heading titles." --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
agreed - just that country in each section title should be sufficient... people reading the article already know its a list... Horus Kol Talk 16:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Photo

There is a photo in the article without a caption. --Jagz 23:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • fixed. --evrik (talk) 21:00, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
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