Talk:List of men's national football (soccer) teams

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Ŕ I seriously doubt Vatican City has a national football team!24.201.40.80 20:10, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

According to the Vatican City national football team article, there is such a team and they only played one game so far in their history. Siva1979Talk to me 18:40, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Teams not affiliated to FIFA

I remember once reading in an issue of When Saturday Comes about an alternative World Cup for nations that don't exist as such (Northen Cyprus & Åland, for example) and so aren't recognised by FIFA. It would be nice to expand on this, and probably have a new page for whatever the tournament is called. Dancarney 23:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, we should have a new article about this. But are you able to get the necessary information? Credible references need to be cited for this as well. --Siva1979Talk to me 20:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shetland Islands & Orkney Islands

I believe that these two island chains are considered part of Scotland for sporting (and governmental) purposes. User: TimothyHorrigan Timothy Horrigan 01:50, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

They are indeed part of Scotland, and anyone from any of those islands is eligble to play for Scotland. However, the two island groups do compete as separate entities in the International Island Games, which includes football as one of its sports. Other teams that compete in this are Ynys Môn (part of Wales) and the Isle of Wight (part of England). Dancarney 14:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Teams of non-sovereign or unrecognized nations -- cleanup required

Someone's gone overboard adding imaginary football teams to this list. For example, Anglesey, Cornwall and the Isle of Wight are UK counties. They have never had "national" teams. A lot of the other teams in this list look similarly suspicious. "Shetland national football team" may have its own page in Wikipedia, but a search at Google turns up absolutely nothing about this team except for the Wikipedia page and its mirrors. Does it really exist? Can someone provide references? And what about all the other teams in there?

I can't tell if this is original research or just patent nonsense, but it certainly doesn't seem very encyclopaedic. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 16:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Many of them seem to be at best regional teams, or putative teams of nations that might one day exist (or exist again) with some degree of self determination. I would suggest that a team is not overseen by a body that describes itself as a national football association, it cannot meaningfully claim to be a national football team, and the article and its link on this page should be deleted. Kevin McE 14:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Look at this Football at the Island Games, Shetland, Guernsey, Jersey, Isle of Wight, Isle of Man.. they play in it, so by same way, that needs to be a "national" selection.. --Calapez 17:14, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
It is not a requirement that members of the Island Games Association make any claim to nationhood, nor that their sporting bodies have, or seek, the status national associations. I can perceive of no definition of "nation" by which the Isle of Wight, for example, would be described, and therefore to talk of it having a national team is meaningless. It might have a representative team, but so does every county, at several different age groups. Kevin McE 18:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Things have gone from bad to worse. We now have 5 "national" football teams for Antarctica, of all places. Including the UNINHABITED Bouvet Island. Obviously this section is never going to contain anything useful or encyclopedic. Would anyone mind if I just go ahead and delete it? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 16:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
i think you can't make a generalization of the problem.. i think it's usefull to remove the non-sense "national teams", but others, no! because they really exists and play games. e.g all Spanish related nations

i think it's good to remove all the national teams that have no page on wikipedia..the others exists as a local federation Calapez (talk • contribs) 18:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC).

Hi, Calpez. I really need you to back up these assertions, because as far as I can tell, none of these teams exist at all. The main problem is that none of these places are "nations" of any kind, so they can't possibly have "national" teams. Just a few examples:
I could go on, but I'd be wasting my time. If you want to save this section, please start looking for reliable sources to back up this information. And please bear in mind that Wikipedia has a policy of no original research. You can't just claim that these teams exist because they have their own Wikipedia pages. That's not how things work here. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 21:16, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
of course, well, the non-exist wiki pages, i don't know, but the one that exists, at least the ones i've created are based in this website www.fedefutbol.net, that's in spanish, but you can surf by the confederation icons and see the "Potencial N.F.Board" as they call it
Cocos Islands - [1]
Chritmas Islands - [2] .... and so on--Calapez 22:41, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Unfortunately that doesn't solve anything. As I said before, none of these places are "nations". I expect football/soccer is played in most inhabited parts of the world. But this page is for national teams. Not for local football associations. The pages you mentioned refer to "CHRISTMAS ISLAND SOCCER ASSOCIATION" and "COCOS (KEELING) ISLANDS SOCCER ASSOCIATION". These are not national teams. It seems that several people have explained this to you already. What exactly don't you understand about the word "national"? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 23:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Definition of N.F.Board in the same page:
NF-Board
These teams are full or provisional members of the NF-Board, an organisation to promote international football among sovereign nations, UNRECOGNIZED NATIONS, REGIONS and STATELESS PEOPLES that are not members of FIFA, and to assist in their possible future membership of FIFA.
If they are NFB candidates that means that can be FIFA candidates in the future..
By the way, Wales, Scotland, England are not nations..Liechtenstein neither, Gibraltar is a nations?no but they are close to get in UEFA, in CONCACAF Martinique, Guadeloupe, French Guiana are not nations, they are part of France and teams compete in French cup, but they are considered nations..

--Calapez 23:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

and by the way "several people have explained this to you already" where is the others? i just see you talking about that.. the other guy that questioned about that, was answered by other guy defending the same point that i am..--Calapez 23:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
A few things for you to consider:
  • This article lists approximately 200 imaginary international football teams. There are only 22 teams listed in the NF-Board article.
  • According to your own quoted text, membership of the NF-Board is open to (a) unrecognized nations, (b) regions, and (c) stateless people. Tibet is an example of an unrecognized nation. To the best of my knowledge, all of the other regions in the list come under (b) or (c). They are not nations. Therefore they do not have national teams.
  • Here's a quote from the FIFA statutes:

Any Association which is responsible for organising and supervising football in its country may become a Member of FIFA. In this context, the expression “country" shall refer to an independent state recognised by the international community.

None of the regions in your list are currently recognized as countries, so they don't qualify for FIFA membership. It is completely pointless assigning fictional teams to countries that don't exist. We need verifiable facts, not vague suppositions. There's even a team listed for "Korea (unified)". What on earth is that doing in there?
  • England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are separate countries. From the United Kingdom article:

The United Kingdom is a political union made up of four constituent countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

So apparently they do qualify for FIFA membership.
  • Re "several people": In addition to myself, Timothy Horrigan pointed out that the Shetland and Orkney Islands are part of Scotland, and Kevin McE (the other guy?) suggested we adhere to a definition similar to FIFA's, which seems sensible, given the title of this article. Your assertion that membership of the Island Games Association somehow promotes these islands to the status of "nations" does not make any sense. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 00:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Why you just consider the a) point? regions, and stateless people can also join the NF-Board

Of course, half of that 200 are non-existant teams, but what i'm trying to say since the beginning is that some of them exists in reality..e.g the Spanish ones (have you ever checked Catalonia or Basque County page?).. they play almost every year as you can see in their pages

you want to remove all that have no article..you have my fully support..because nothing support their existence.. but the others, that have article exists in reality, nation or not that's not the main question..
as a NF-Board guy said, Faroe Island and Greenland have exactly the same political situation..so why one of them is "Nation" and the other not?, just because FIFA say that? this is more than FIFA opinion since the creation of NF-Board --Calapez 00:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Teams of non-sovereign or unrecognized nations: Partial cleanup

OK, I've removed all the the teams that had red links. But please don't remove the {{cleanup}} tag just yet. There are still some major problems with this list. For example, the Isle of Wight national football team may have its own page in Wikipedia, but I can assure you there is no such thing. We still need to discuss the following:

  • Removal of non-existent teams
  • Possible move of this information to a page with a more suitable title.

And by the way, if anyone is considering reinstating the teams I just removed from this page, please justify your actions here first, otherwise you can expect your edits to be reverted. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 11:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

i think it's a good option the one you take.. i'm not from UK, so i don't know nothing about Isle of Wight, but if they don't exists, who play all that games recorded in that page http://www.fedefutbol.net/fedenf.aspx?id=WGT? --Calapez 15:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Am I not making myself clear?
  • The Isle of Wight exists. I'm not disputing that.
  • It also has a football team, which participates in the Island Games. I'm not disputing that either.
  • But the Isle of Wight is not a nation. It is a UK county.
  • It therefore has a county football team, not a national football team.
  • Since it is an island, it is also eligible to participate in the Island Games. The teams participating in the Island games do not have to be national teams. They have to be island teams. That's why it's called the Island Games.
  • Since the Isle of Wight is a county, and not a nation, it cannot have a national football team.
  • There is no such thing as the Isle of Wight National Football team.
Is it really that difficult to understand? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 16:21, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
I understand what you say, but don't you understand that the word "National" is just a convention??
  • There is a lot of "FIFA Nations" that are not nations in fact! but you are calling it that way.. Faroe Island is a nation? Martinique? French Guiana? Guadeloupe? Liechtenstein? Andorra? Tahiti? Macau? Hong Kong?none of these are nations neither..
  • NF-Board are opened for non-nations too!! These article is not about The FIFA Nations..these one are under content "1. FIFA Affiliates", the regions you are talking about are under content 3. Where the NF-Board teams are discribed too..
  • I never said Isle of Wight is a nation.. i just say that they are in the same level as Chechnya or Monaco, that are part of NF-Board
  • What you want to do? change Martinique national team to Martinique Regional team? or change the Liechtenstein national team to Liechtenstein Principality team?? Macau national team to Macau Special Administrative Regional team?? you have to understand that call is "national team" is just a convention
if you don't want to understand that fact...ok--Calapez 22:55, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

A convention? Whose convention? They're either nations or they're not nations. If they're not nations, then it makes no sense to call them nations, or to list them in an article that claims to be a list of nations, or to refer to their football teams as national football teams. What's wrong with "Isle of Wight football team", or "Martinique football team"? You haven't provided a shred of evidence to support the existence of a "convention" for inserting "national" into team names where it doesn't belong. What is this "fact" you're referring to? What is it that I don't want to understand? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 23:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

so, you almost want to change every team article name..if you want to do that..ok, do it..
there's nothing wrong with that.. but you will have no change the name of articles that exists for a long time..
  • according to your view, you have to change this article name..because it says "men's national teams" and there are FIFA members that are not nations, so what you do? you don't list all confederation members? will you remove Andorra and Liechtenstein from UEFA list?? Hong Kong and Macau from AFC list? that's non sense...
  • finally, you just have acess to this article from International football template, and that template is about what? UEFA, AFC, CONMEBOL, CONCACAF, OFC, CAF and NF-BOARD, so when when you see "teams" there it's suppose to see all those teams, nations or not-nations, right?--Calapez 02:50, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Teams of non-sovereign or unrecognized nations: A proposal

The discussion above is difficult to follow, not least because of multi-paragraph messages that make it difficult to keep track of who is saying what, and because it has become argument rather than construction of a possible consensus. I suggest, therefore, that a team should be included in this section only if the following criteria can be met:

  • There is sufficient verifiable information on the team to justify a Wikipedia article;
  • The team represents a nation (although this need not be an autonomous nation-state: England, and the Australian Indigenous Peoples, are nations) or a region that has significant independence;
  • The team is administered by a body whose existence can be verified independently of Wikipedia and which styles, or can be shown to understand itself, as a national body;
  • Being currently active is not necessary, but there must be genuine evidence of either historic or genuinely plausible future fixtures;
  • The majority of fixtures are against sides that would otherwise meet these criteria;
  • If a team has no acknowledgement (which need not necessarily equate to membership) by FIFA, one of its confederations, or the NF Board, then the burden of proof should be on those who wish to list it here.

Could I suggest that, for the moment, we restrict our conversation in this section to the principles for inclusion/exclusion, rather than the merits or otherwise of particular teams. Kevin McE 12:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

How about restricting the article to FIFA members? The NF-Board has its own article, so there's no point in reduplicating the list here. -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 13:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
FIFA has also its own article..so they are duplicated too..
I think it should be a overall list, because who wants to see a small list, can see it in each confederation page, like Sakurambo is saying for the NF-Board ones..
That's why it is a list, to see all of them...
The question is: This article is linked just in International Football template, that talks about, UEFA, CAF, AFC, CONCACAF, CONMEBOL, OFC and NF-BOARD, so all of them have to be here.. --Calapez 22:14, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
If FIFA has its own article, then do we really need this page at all? Why not just change the International Football template? -- Sakurambo 桜ん坊 11:15, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
The intention of this list is to put together all teams playing at the level of selection-teams. The Brazilians never stress the national team but the selecao. But what Sakurambo and Kevin McE are not willing to admit is that some full CONCACAF-members do not yet meet those criteria: for instance Saint-Martin is half an Island, that belongs to the French département Guadeloupe approximately as the Isle of White belongs to England. Can you accept the expression official football team, as I have tried to implement in Frøyan official football team and Hitra official football team? They are official teams representing an entity (either territorial or ethnic) in fixtures or championships, in its majority against sides that would otherwise meet these criteria. But I would want to stress (as justification of such a new practice), that Saint-Martin should be renamed to Saint-Martin official football team with a redirect from Saint-Martin national football team. The full-FIFA-member Montserrat is not a "nation" but an an overseas territory of the United Kingdom. And full-FIFA-member Macao was a Portuguese colony and is now a Special administrative region (People's Republic of China). --Rheinländer 16:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
As Calapez has done, I would suggest that you are confusing nation with nation-state. The Isle of Wight has never had, nor sought, a national identity: Macao and Saint-Martin have: it means far more to describe oneself as "Montserratian" (it that is the appropriate demonym) than as a Shetlander. It is not a case of whether the team represents an official football association (every county in the UK would have a team listed by that criterion) but whether (in my proposal) that association consideres itself to be a national or quasi-national body. Kevin McE 21:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
A normal County in England does not represent its county in fixtures or championships with other selection-teams representing an entity officially. To me the Isle of White, by taking part in the Island Games (against sides like Greenland, Åland Islands, Jersey and (till they became full-FIFA-member) Faroe Islands), represents itself officially with its official football selection-team. The Isle of White team is not less representing a quasi-national-body than the Saint-Martin team is. Both are representing their Island or Part of the Island (being an Entity in the sense of a territorial or ethnic Legal entity). To me Saint-Martin becomes an entity in this sense only in combination of territorial distinction from Guadeloupe and ethnic (in this special case culture, language) distinction from Sint Maarten.
I would not miss Ceuta, Melilla or Alaska, who have not yet represented their entity and therefore are not even entities in this sense, as they have not yet acted as entities. But for instance Tasmania national football team has played against Tahiti (as we know a full-FIFA-member) 01 May 1985 as well as against Australia (10 October 1984). Just as full-FIFA-member Macao played against China (30 January 1996 and 12 May 1985). --Rheinländer 14:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
The Isle of Wight (note spelling) is a "normal" county, and its participation in the Island Games reflects nothing more than the geographical fact of its being surrounded by water, not any special status among the counties. Participation in these games is by no means the main function or raison d'être for the IoW FA, and it is by no stretch of the imagination a national association. Föhr or Sylt or any other of the Frisian Islands would be equally eligible to enter the Island Games: would this make such a team an internationally representative team? I would suggest not. Kevin McE 22:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
i think that the problem of some guys are just the names choosen.. if we replace all " ... national football team" by "... official football team" there are no more discussions about Nations, States, Islands and so on...--Calapez 22:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
But "Official" football team means nothing. No team is described as the "official Football team" and any team, apart from the most casual participants in a kick around in the park, is as official as the organisation fielding the side wants it to be. Is a county team less "official" than a national one? Is a school team less official than a club side? Kevin McE 20:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup- what should go, what should stay.

let's vote on what should go and what should stay, cause a cleanup is needed in some places, Spain in particular. the only thing that should stay in spain are the Canary islands and The Basque Country.

Before u should vote u should know how to vote on what will go.

Islands such as the canary islands should stay because it's like USA and Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico isn't even considerd a state of USA so they are able to have there own team. Islands liek the Canaries and Azores are teams

And The Basque Country represents the basque speaking people of spain and france. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amazingferret36 (talk • contribs) 23:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC).

i think it's completelly non-sense.. all spanish regions has equal status.. Canary Island is part of Spain like Balearic Islands (that you don't talk in your post).. and you haven't mencioned the most known and active football team, Catalonia. --Calapez 16:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
yah i was sorta in a rush and did it very quickly, Catalonia will stay, Canary islands should be voted on, Balearic islands will go, and Basque will stay, rest of spain will go. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amazingferret36 (talk • contribs) 21:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC).
Ok it's me again and i'm gonna clean this page up of all the crap that people put in there and take everything that does not diserve to be inm there into a new sub catagory at the bottom of the page.

If u noticed i edited the page on spain, i have a line cutting through the provinces of spain, and the things that should be in the section, (Basque, Canary(will vote on it) catalonia)

And also before anyone asks, Norfolk island for australia is in and will stay in, it should not be deleted. and no i did not put it in, it's just that people always make a fuss about australia --amazingferret36

Are you from spain or near the country? i think you are completely out of the reality of the country.. Canary Islands is one of the less active teams.. just to give you an idea of how it is working.. registered matches: Andalucia 12 games - Aragon 9 - Asturias 10 - Cantabria 6 - Castilla y Leon 2 - Catalonia 44 - Valencia Community 12 - Galicia 4 - Balearic Islands 1 - Navarra 3 - Basque County 41 - Canary Islands 4!
All spanish counties have equal status, so it's hard to understand your criterium...--Calapez 01:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

At User:amazingferret36: Please do not describe the work of other authors as crap. Mostly the authors are inserting interesting and precious information, see Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Which page did you edit in Spanish? I am asking, because the linked page es:Lista de selecciones de fútbol does not contain the non-FIFA selection-teams. Not to forget Murcian national football team, added by 87.218.53.117 and needing a new article, having played two matches (against Lithuania and Ecuador see [3]). You have added Galapagos; please give references of any match. About Norfolk: It has already been deleted once: see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norfolk Island national football team, note especially the delete-vote and comments of OzLawyer. You can still see the unreferenced former article here: [4]. The matches named there were most probably only hoax. There is a Norfolk Island Soccer Association, as in ebay you just missed to bye a badge for 2 Pounds [5] and [6]--Rheinländer

11:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Galapagos shows promise of a future team, that's why i put them in. If u search on google u can find norfolk island soccer association so which means they might have a team in the future, i'm still looking up to see if they played games, i'll keep posted on that. --[[User:amazingferret36|amazingferret36]
Somebody might have matches in the future: if that is not an admission of speculation, I don't know what is. This is an encyclopedia, and therefore deals with verifiable established facts, not speculation. Thank you for confirming that deletion is proper. Kevin McE 21:58, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
Ok i understand everything now, 1st of all, when i say basque i mean the basque speaking people of spain and france, when u say basque you mean the basque country or the basque province of spain. i take the blame because i didn't explain myself clearly enough. Basque should be in the list, but not as a province of spain but as a people. Sorta like Kurdistan.

2nd of all i withdrew my possition over canary islands because i thought that they were a seperate nation of spain, not a province of spain, my fault and i believe i owe u guys an apology. But i want to point out that i said nothing about the bealaric islands, bealaric islands is obviously a province of spain(i don't think i'm that stupid)

3rd let's get back on topic, as the thread i created said, it's time to clean it up. it got messed up when people started putting down the provinces of spain and britain. so i was thinking it's a chance to re-organise this section to avoid clean ups in the future. My idea is to organise everything into contenants(eg: North America, Europe, Asia) that way we won't have this problem happen again. And for those who would like to have some info about it being part of a country for example we will put it like this: Isle Of Man, Britain. That way people would know it's part of britain. i geuss this will be the end of my post and i hope we can clean this up soon. [[User:# Amazingferret36|# Amazingferret36]]

Except, of course, that the Isle of Man is not part of the UK, and, so long as it has an active team, it is one of the minorityon the list whose nationhood I would not challenge. Kevin McE 22:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
well, You know what i mean =\ # Amazingferret36
i heard of alaska having a team, someone look in on this. Also a list of possible teams are: Saaremaa, Ascension Island, Caprivi, French Polynesia, Tokelau,
Saarema and Caprivi exists, i can confirm that.. French Polynesia is Tahiti, and Tokelau is already listed--Calapez 23:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Yah i was about to edit my posts, i just took a couple of teams from a list, when i came back and realised i posted some teams that are already there.. i felt stupid, i wish i got a chance to edit it before anyone psoted.


i have edited the NF Board section with the most current up to date standings which are that Sealand, South Lower Saxony and Saugeais all have made it into Provisinal Status and that there is no longer any associete members at the moment. [7] according to the official site. --[[User:# Amazingferret36|# Amazingferret36]]

[edit] Deleted Texas

I have deleted

  • Texas

There is absolutely no team representing Texas officially in football (soccer). There is no reference to be found for such a team. Neither on www.rsssf.com: Electronic Reachability of Football Associations nor on www.national-football-teams.com nor on rsssf: International Country Results nor on www.roonba.co.nr, for example Button Non-FIFA nor on www.fedefutbol.net. No soccer-matches can be recorded. The only hit in google is: "The University of Texas National Football Team" on Fan-page for Texas Longhorns, obviously for an American football team of the The University of Texas at Austin see: www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com and Texas Longhorns.--Rheinländer 13:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

you know this is getting out of hand.. why would someone put in texas? stop putting in states/provinces for countries like england, spain, and usa. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amazingferret36 (talk • contribs) 22:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

And what about remove that "chapter" and put there a link to a new page, where we can list the regional and peoples selections that really exists?--Calapez 23:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

that'd be great,but remember this is a list of Mens Football Teams. So it is a list of all teams, Fifa and NF Board. But that made me realized, this is a list, so to make this actually live up to it's name, shouldn't we have a list of ALL Teams from Island Games, To the NF Board and the Fifa World cup. Wasn't that the point of this Article? so instead of doing this, we should get this clean up over with, and put ALL the teams on it? If this article is not going to include a full list of teams from all shapes and sizes then shouldn't this articles title be changed? --Amazingferret36

and what about to change the title of that chapter to "Regional, Islands and Peoples selection-teams currently active" ?--Calapez 00:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia should include an option to close a chapter after it's been fully finished/completed, and to keep people from editing it for the wrong reasons. that way this discussion wouldn't even be happening. and No it is for teams like Kurdistan and Aland Islands, not for Tortola and virgin Gorda, There's a reason why there's a British and American Virgin islands Team, it's so we don't have to go through 30 different island teams.

Aland Islands are islands too.. Tortola and so on plays matches against CONCACAF members.. Kurdistan..ever played?--Calapez 01:53, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
i don't believe lord howe island and cococ(keeling)islands have soccer teams.
Cocos have, they play reguraly against Christmas islands... what about sign your posts??? --Calapez 16:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
wow ur right! who would belive from an island of only 629 inabitants, it's able to find a team. But what about Lord Howe Island? --Amazingferret36
Isn't Ulster northern Ireland? why is it here? --Amazingferret36


[edit] It happened again

What happened to the list? it even includes Antartica which for the best of my knowledge has NO PERMANENT INHABITANTS! Heard and Mcdonald Islands have no inhabitants, French Polynesia is Tahiti, French Antartic Territories? Do i even have to say anything? Ross dependancy ounce again is part of antartica (oh my god) Chatham islands is a possibility if it's proven toi have any team at all. I'm not gonna comment on britain till later when i do some resaerch on it, THERE'S A TEAM THAT IS BRITISH AND USA VIRGIN ISLANDS TOGATHER! i'm gonna do some research but isn't sardinia a province of italy? SAAR DOESN'T EXIST ANYMORE! Crete is part of greece, Rhodes there because they participate in the island games where Crete does not, Nagorno-Karabakh... not even gonna say anything, wake island is.. uninhabited, only people there are American military, A team for both east and west timor.. i didn't even look at africa yet... but i think there's gonna be alot more... --Amazingferret36

Calm down.. You know that anyone can write what they want without read the discussion.. instead of whilling why don't you remove the non-sense "teams"? I've removed all the teams based in an unknown source--Calapez 00:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

lol i freaked out there, i think some were ok, like a few in europe. --Amazingferret36

[edit] New names

I suspect that this list is being edited to reflect changes of names of nations. However, this is a list of national football teams, not a list of nations, and so any instances of name change on this list should reflect a change of the name under which the national team played. Kevin McE 13:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

i agree --Calapez 23:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
i agree to but the problem with this is that if you click on ceylon, it goes to sri lanka, as with many other of those nations. this requires major searching on google or another search engine. I strongly don't believe that the african teams were playing that long ago since that most of them didn't start playing to the 80's and 90's (correct me if i'm wrong) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.102.249.178 (talk) 13:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

Hey!!!! Svalbard...Norfolk...Ascension...Tristan da cunha...Pitcairns...Herm...Jan Mayen...Antarctica...have got a national team? I found on a old wikipedia article some results of antarctica.... On the roon ba website all other... and on other websites the image and shirt of many others... so....i know that many of these don't have played matches yet...but... have got the national team???


umm you do know what Antarctica is right? Also there's a difference beetwin regional and national team where those teams might be regional. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.122.180.120 (talk) 17:28, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

Southern Rhodesia i think don't exist but the others yes!!!the only one that i'm not sure is Aden.South Yemen played 4 international matches in 1965 as Lahej. Manchuria PLAYED international matches: 09-08-1942 • Manchuria 0-3 Japan • Friendly • in Manchuria; 07-06-1940 • Japan 7-0 Manchuria • Friendly • in Japan; 03-09-1939 • Manchuria 0-6 Japan • Friendly • in Manchuria. Maybe exists other old names...

[edit] Deleted Cocos Island (Guam) from this list

This tiny island one mile off the coast of Guam is not represented by a soccer team. The Cocos (Keeling) Islands national football team represents the Cocos Islands (also only 628 Inhabitants; between Australia and Sumatra) and has already been on this list. also deleted, because they do not have a soccer-team representing them, nor do they have a soccer-association (yet):

  • Svalbard, Norway
  • Lord Howe Island.


--Rheinländer 09:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Possible Zulu Team?

I have found some sources saying that there is a team Representing the Zulu people, Someone look into this.

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