Talk:List of high schools in Florida

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[edit] To Wikilink or not to Wikilink

6-9-05: I added Coral Glades HS (Coral Springs)

Please refrain from adding external links in the list. Wikipedia articles are not mere collections of external links. If you want the link, write the article (and some people would be eternally happy if you, by preference, wrote the school district article, rather that individual school articles, but your mileage may vary). Flyers13 04:07, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
Perhaps every school in this article should be linked to the article on the school. And the chance that the school does not already have an article, it may motivate others to do an article. Pepsidrinka 03:46, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
I tend to agree. One Wiki'er has been bent on removing links from pages that don't have wiki's. But how are you going to know if someone's made a page there if there's not an existing link? So you've got some red links. But I've seen on other lists have stopped external linking completely by encouraging others to form the pages that are already linked. That's my two cents worth. -- Bladeswin 19:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Other editors have also agreed that high schools should not be linked in this linst until the articles exists. Notice that User:Flyers13 wrote the comment above, and User:PRueda29 has also recently removed redlinks from this list. All those redlinks look really ugly. And having redlinks in this list is unlikely to inspire anyone to write the articles. Articles about high schools tend to be written by students at the school, and they don't need to see a redlink on this list to realize that an article on their doesn't exist. As there has been a default consensus for a while on not redlinking this list, I request that you not add redlinks without a thorough discussion in this talk page. -- Dalbury(Talk) 22:58, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Redlinks are listed on Special:Wantedpages - what's the big deal? ¦ Reisio 23:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I agree with Dalbury. A huge list of red links isn't going to attract anyone to start an article. It might even invite vandals to create attack pages for the schools by simply clicking the link and editing. Looking through other similar lists, the general uniformity is for non-linking. Linking every article would be as logical as linking every word on a regular article hoping that those that don't have a page would be created by a a reader. That's my two cents. -- PRueda29 / Ptalk29 / Pcontribs29 23:33, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

I would like to disagree with you still. I know that you have removed others' wikilinks because they link to no page. However there are some good and very valid reasons for adding, and leaving these wikilinks.

1. Discourage external linking. If there's already a link going somewhere (article or not), people will be more apt to see that there is a need for an article for that school, and if they're active enough to add the external link, they may be active enough to create an article for the school they were linking for.

2. It's worked for other state's list pages. I saw this done on Idaho, New Jersey and Oklahoma for example. When I looked at these to remove external linking, there was none to remove. The reasons given in number 1 work.

3. How are we going to know if Joe Schmo creates a page on such-and-such high school in some county that happens to be on the list? Easy, we won't. I know, because when I started adding wikilinks, I found two that had pages written about them that no one linked to the list. -- Bladeswin 18:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I still don't believe that justifies why the schools should be linked. I've done some research on your theories, and I've come up with these rebuttles.
1. Looking through the articles you've specified, specifically Oklahoma and Idaho, there is very little evidence that wikilinking each article has encouraged anyone to start articles on schools, with the vast majority of links still red. Also, these articles seem to be less popular than the list on Florida and New Jersey, and thus experience less bouts of vandalism and addition of external links. The exception being a recent addition of several stubs by one user to the Idaho article, though this seems to be centered on the Boise area and does not indicate the user began creating articles because of red links on the list.
2. Looking at the page history for the New Jersey article, it seems that regular users who watch that page remove external links as they are added, wikilinking has not prevented these external links from being added, but rather, those who watch that article have been more enthusiatic about removing them than those of us who watch this article.
3. Even though there may be school articles out there that exist and are not linked, it still does not mean that articles receive less traffic simply because they are not linked to this list. A user looking for a school will first type the name of the school or district before searching for this list. Also, I've noticed many links that are blue in the articles you mention lead to articles for schools with the same name, located in different states. For example, Freedom High School in the Oklahoma article leads the user to the wrong article, for Freedom High School in Virginia. Same for Union High School (article leads to school in NJ). Memorial High School, listed for Tulsa leads to a disambiguation page that does not list the Tulsa school with this name (note: I have now added the school), which makes us believe that many of those blue links are erroneous and misleading to readers. PRueda29 / Ptalk29 / Pcontribs29 00:21, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
I think the whole thing should be Wikilinked--JEF 00:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
The consensus here is to not link non-existant articles. -- Donald Albury 22:51, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I will agree here understanding it contributes to the article cleanliness. - JP - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 01:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Add information on schools?

Is there any information needed for any new schools in Florida? I think I can help a bit wih that.--Chili14 23:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

If you bookmarked this page, I would love it if you created articles on schools! Anything without wikilinks needs an article if you're still interested. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 04:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikilink City Names

I have a question. For Collier County, I Wikilinked the city names for some of the high schools in a set manner. I linked to the first occurance of the city in the list. As it hasn't been removed, I was considering linking every county in a similiar pattern. But as I know I'm not the only one watching this page, I figured I'd ask first and gather opinions. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 00:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

No objections here. :-D -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 01:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
For examples of the differences, the majority have no city wikilinks. At the moment Alachua and Collier Counties have my proposed layout, and Leon currently has Tallahassee wikilinked for each school. I propose a consensus unilaterally, just as external links are not permitted, the chosen layout would also be a rule of thumb. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 03:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
Today I actively started implimenting this proposal I made from April...hard to believe I waited this long to start! I'll be popping in after Labor Day Weekend to finish up. Here's the methodology:
  • Wikilink the first occurance of a city in a category as [[Miami, Florida|Miami]]. (Miami and North Miami are different)
  • Check each Wikilink to see if:
  • Wikilink Exists
  • Wikilink doesn't redirect to a similiarly named city.
  • Accurate County the city is in.
I know it's anal retentive, but I think that it adds to the article and gives continuity. - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 04:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
DONE! Woot. - Jake - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 23:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
I didn't notice this until today, too bad, I could've helped. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 11:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Heh. No problem. The wikilinking wasn't bad. What was bad was finding links that went to other towns in another county, or to towns without articles. That was the longest part. - Jake - Bladeswin | Talk to me | 12:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I added / changed information!

I added my school, Bishop McLaughlin (Pasco) and Nature Coast Tech (Hernando) --CanesOL79 03:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

I am moving Forest Lake Academy from Orange County to Seminole County. Although Apopka is in Orange, the School is in Seminole (the discrepancy has something to do with ZIP Codes). 70.152.223.62 16:17, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

I just did a major overhaul of the Naples High School article. I based it off of Gulf Coast High School which I also overhauled / created.

[edit] Magnet Schools

There are more magnet schools than the ones listed here unless you are only listing the purely magnet schools and not the shared magnet and public schools. Because I went to Miami Coral Park Senior High School, and I was definitely in a magnet program. Please refer to : http://choice.dadeschools.net/shs_listings.htm I brought this up at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Miami-Dade_County_Public_Schools too. Oh and Miami Coral Park Senior High School is definately not in sweetwater. Heartcoke (talk • contribs) 13:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I replied to you there, if it's not in Sweetwater then feel free to change the location. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 20:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
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