Talk:List of hello world programs

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This article was nominated for deletion on 23 February 2006. The result of the discussion was keep.

1 Articles for Deletion debate
2 Hello(,) World!
3 M# Fictional Programming Language
4 Practical, or comprehensive?
5 VB example
6 VB console
7 Compiled sizes?
8 Family BASIC Help?
9 Thai
10 Transwiki

[edit] Articles for Deletion debate

This article survived an Articles for Deletion debate. The discussion can be found here. -Splash^talk 23:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

And then it got deleted anyway... yay, the system works. —EatMyShortz 03:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Sigh... hooray for Wikinazis.

[edit] Hello(,) World!

Should there be some consistancy with the use of commas in this Hello World program listing? It's about half and half currently. 208.20.220.76 21:49, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Aye, it would be a little nicer if they were consistent. The hello world program article says it prints "Hello, world!" (note the comma and lowercase 'w') so I suppose that's the format that should be used. Unless anyone has any objections I'll make the examples consistent. I'll wait a few days or so to give anyone time to add their input to this talk topic. Icey 04:59, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, both on the need for persistency and the proposed format. Denis Kasak 09:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, world! I mean, err, I've finished updating lots of entries that were either obvious, I could find other examples or the web or I took an educated guess at. There's a few left, especially ones like calculators and ones where everything was in uppercase. I'll leave those to someone with more knowledge on the language. Icey 00:41, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

There are numerous languages from older systems or on calculators that don't have punction marks and/or only have one case (the program I contributed for the HP 33s is one such example). Nothing to be done for them. Bfootdav 17:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] M# Fictional Programming Language

Was linked to the page (the letter) "M". Obviously unintended. I've skimmed Alphabetical list of programming languages and List of esoteric programming languages, with no sign of it. Does anyone else know anything about it? I'm presuming it is/would be known as M Sharp, right? samwaltz 11:57, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

found a link ([1]) to info about it. it is a serious programing language. no mention of it being fictional is on the page. the header should be changed to somthing that makes more sense like "M# .NET programing language"[anon]

[edit] Practical, or comprehensive?

Should the intention of this page be practical, or comprehensive? I'm considering adding examples for two other languages, but one is limited in scope and the other is so obscure it's esoteric.

If practical, such languages don't need to be included on the page.

If comprehensive, then we should endeavor to add every known language to the page.

--71.156.105.38 17:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Esoteric? Is it this esoteric? Otherwise I think it'll be fine. The practicality of this list not inversely proportional to the number of entries or anything. Shinobu 14:18, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

A-ha! At least one of them belongs there. Thanks for the pointer. --71.156.105.38 17:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VB example

The following code will not work:

Sub Main
    Print "Hello World!"
End Sub

Print is in VB a graphical method to draw text on a form. It can be used without object qualifier only from form code. This example will yield an error like "Method not valid without suitable object". Shinobu 14:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] VB console

I removed the VB version from the console section, since it's a GUI hello world. You can actually write a console app in VB, but it's a lot of work: [2] and serves more as a demo of arcane console API functionality than as a demo of VB coding. Shinobu 13:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Compiled sizes?

Could anyone include the sizes of the compiled executables, please? :-) 84.164.87.169 15:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I doubt that would be a useful statistic; it would depends heavily on the implementation (the compilers, librariers, etc.), the options used for compiling the program and even the architecture for which it was compiled. With all that considered, it would hardly have any encyclopaedic value. Denis Kasak 16:51, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Family BASIC Help?

When I tried the general code, all I get are zeros. Anyone know why? -- Lzer 22:30, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thai

ใช้ ไทย.ท

เริ่ม

   แสดง("สวัสดี,ชาวโลก!");

จบ

[edit] Transwiki

Since this page appears to be correctly transwikied to wikibooks:Transwiki:List of hello world programs, and nobody objected to deletion for a week, I have deleted it. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 13:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

This article was not marked for deletion when you deleted it, was it? I would have objected. dr.ef.tymac 20:14, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

This article has been through a deletion debate (see top of the talk page) resulting in a keep or transwiki. This article has been transwikied and had a will-be-deleted-because-of-transwiki-notice on it for a week. —Ruud 22:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I can't really agree with this either, and I'm not sure if the 'keep'-voting majority would agree with transwikification. (Note that there's also a discussion about this on Tizio's talk page.) - Chip Zero 16:56, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The article was marked for deletion when I deleted it. Even if it had not, WP:CSD#A5 says that it could have been deleted on sight. Tizio, Caio, Sempronio 17:12, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

The transwiki seems to have caused major problems, and I don't think it should have been deleted until they are resolved. Now we have no public access to the original wikipedia version.

All the links are now red. Obviously, they were quite useful as they linked to the wikipedia articles for each language. The transwiki says it needs to be de-wikified - no... that would be very bad, then there would be no links to the wikipedia articles at all.
- It needs to be dewikified because it is full of redlinks. There are wikibooks on many of those languages, but they're usually not going to go by the same name that the wikipedia article would have (for example, wikibooks naming convention wouldn't use "(programming)", etc). If search on wikibooks doesn't find you a page to link to, just request another import... nothing wrong with adding more programming materials.
The pictures are gone. They were very useful in showing what the hello world dialogs looked like in GUI languages. The purpose of this page was to showcase what languages look like - it should also showcase what their GUIs look like.
- The images are gone because they are in wikipedia's Image: namespace. They just need to be either uploaded to commons or uploaded to the wikibooks Image: namespace (unfortunately we are unable to import images).
A cursory glance suggests the transwiki isn't the same as the source one - for one thing it contains all the esoteric languages, which on Wikipedia were kept in a separate article. Obviously we can't compare since the original has been deleted! (And what the hell is Super NAND Time!!?)
- All revisions were imported, so if you want to find the one you like better, just go through the page history. --SB_Johnny|^talk|_books 11:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Obviously the transwiki is nowhere near complete, and the delete was premature. Request restoration immediately. —EatMyShortz 03:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The esoteric language programs were merged into the main article before the transwiki (this was mentioned by Ruud on my talk page). As for the problems of the transwiki article, just fix them on wikibooks! If you find the article so useful, you shouldn't stop working on it just because it has been moved to a different project. Tizio 10:33, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

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