Talk:List of fictional toxins

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[edit] When should we list it?

Heya.

I wanted to discuss when we should or shouldn't add a fictional toxin or mutagen in this list. My idea is that we only list a fictional toxin when it's primary use or property is poisoning or mutating living organisms.

Greetz,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 08:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Does that include chemicals that create zombies? Teflon Don 21:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Chemicals, yes. Viruses, no.
Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 08:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree that viruses should be included in List of fictional diseases. Tavilis 14:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm going to suggest that if the mutagenic side effect massively outstrips the medical (or other) benefit it make the list. From that principle I added Pax from Serenity (film). Spice from Dune (novel) is mutagenic, but far to useful to qualify for the list. Novangelis 00:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] T-Virus

I removed the T-Virus from the list. The T-Virus is an engeneered disease, not a toxin, it belongs in the "Engineered diseases" section of the List of fictional diseases.

Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 12:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree Tavilis 13:15, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DDT?

I don't get this entry.

DDT is an exhisting pesticide, known under the names 1,1,1-trichloro-2,2-bis(p-chlorophenyl)ethane and dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane and not (4,4'-(2,2,2-trichloroethane-1,1-diyl)bis(chlorobenzene). The listed DDT internal link goes to the non-fictional DDT-wiki, and the listed source, Paul Hermann Müller, is a non-fictional chemist who discovered the non-fictional DDT. Furthermore, DDT is said to help against barbituate-poisoning when ingested and is said to be non-toxic for humans and primates.

I'll remove the DDT entry, but I invite whomever added the entry to find/state the proper Fantasy/Sci-Fi referrence wherein DDT is used as you described.

Also, it might be possible that this entry about DDT fits better in the list of fictional applications of real materials.

Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 10:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Spice Melange

Should there be a listing under mutagens for the Spice from Dune? The Spacing Guild Navigators are completely altered by long-term use of the Spice, to the point they no longer resemble humans. --YoungFreud 20:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Good question. It is already listed in the List of fictional medicines and drugs and it's primary use is for astrogation, not for mutation (which is considered a side-effect in the Dune-universe). I don't know at the moment.
Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 07:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
The reason I ask is because there are items on both lists that have a legitmate medicinal value, like Ephemerol in Scanners, in which an unintended mutagenic side effect.--YoungFreud 04:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Hell, why not. The list could use some beefing up. ;)
Greets,
-Maverick Hunter Styx 07:15, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
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