Talk:List of fictional swords
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I have removed Zanbato (actually, Zanbatō) from the list:
"* Zanbato - Rurouni Kenshin (Wielded by Sagara Sanosuke a.k.a. Zanza)"
The reason is that the zanbatō is a type of sword, and not a specific name. Arguably, while Sanosuke's zanbatō is larger than a real one, the anime presents that as being a typical zanbatō; thus, it is a type and therefore removed.--Mitsukai 01:39, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Kusanagi
I removed Kusanagi as it is not mythological, per discussion page on Kusanagi. -mkehrt 21:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
- I think it could still be included. It is heavily featured in Japanese Mythology and some modern works of fantasy. No actual proof exists that there is a "real" Kusanagi; supposedly, some priests have it in a shrine in Japan, but they won't let any one see it, much like the Ark of the Covenant (another "mythical" artifact) in the Church of Our Lady Mary of Zion. By your argument, Excalibur could be excluded as well, as most historians agree that there was a "real" King Arthur at some point, who may indeed have had a sword named Caledfwlch. I think owing to its mythical origins and inclusion in many works of fiction/entertainment today, it can be included in the article.ka1iban 18:47, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mythology
Regarding the recent mass removal of the entire mythology section - those swords are certainly not *real*, so I think that including them on this page under a mythology section is perfectly reasonable. Turnstep 12:36, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree; the mythological swords section should not have been removed from this article.--PlaneShaper 23:37, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
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- I reinserted the mythology section, although I think that it might be useful to differentiate between mythology and fiction (i.e. literature), which I guess was the reason for the deletion. We could possibly move the section to a new page, or rename the current page "fictional/mythological". Lesgles 05:10, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
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- I agree with the reinsertion, although some structure/hierarchy would be useful. (I'll do this.) I think both fictional and mythological swords should be covered in a single article, as mythological swords often turn up in fantasy fiction... But maybe a better title would be List of mythological and fictional swords. Ant 14:30, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Asian Swords
I think Asian swords of myth would add to this article.
[edit] Hanzo Swords?
Do the katana forged by Hattori Hanzo in the "Kill Bill" movies count? They do seem to have abilities beyond mere sharpness.
- I agree, there should be some mention of the Hatori Hanzo and his swords
[edit] Green Destiny
On that note, what about Green Destiny from "Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon"? Is there a reason for there not being a Movies section?
Done. 6/20/06
[edit] Video games, manga, cartoons
Do we really need to mention every single sword in every game in the same article? 222.126.76.205 19:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
- Maybe, but what strikes me more is that so many bulletings are used for swords from the same game, maybe I'll change that.... Oh, and I wonder if it would be better if the zanpakutō section is shortened, because there's already an article about zanpakutō, complete with the names and their descriptions.
- - Wakipudeo -
I'm changing the Zanpakuto section to one line--the main article already has the list, plus descriptions, and it's more useful to someone who actually wants the info than a list of names. Suffice to say on this page that the swords exist.
[edit] Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Fantasy
A lot of close combat takes place in Warhammer 40,000 as well as Warhammer Fantasy. There are a number of named swords in both franchises, as well as classes of fictional swords not seen anywhere else.
Examples from Warhammer Fantasy include sword classes like the Swords of Striking, the twelve Runefangs gifted to the Empire by the Dwarfs after the Empire came to their aid during a Greenskin invasion and the Birth-Swords of some Bretonnian Knights (notably those from Carcasonne). There are a very large number of swords and sword types in Warhammer Fantasy, and I don't play it myself so i don't know what very many are called.
Examples from Warhammer 40,000 include sword classes such as the Chainswords wielded by Space Marines, some Imperial Guard commanders and sergeants and Eldar Striking Scorpions, the Eviscerators (giant-sized chainswords) wielded by certain members of the Imperial Ecclesiarchy, the various Powerswords wielded by different people, the Necron Warscythes, the C'Tan Phase Swords wielded by Imperial Assassins, the Sword of the High marshalls wielded by the High Marshal of the Black Templars Chapter, the Black Swords wielded by the Emperor's Champions of the same, the two Swords of Secrets wielded by the Grand Masters of the Dark Angels' Deathwing and Ravenwing, and probably further examples from the Ultramarines (I think Marneus Calgar's personal Company Champion has a matched pair of powerblades that have a specific name), the Blood Angels (I would be very surprised if they didn't have some named swords) and the Space Wolves (I think some Frost Blades are swords).
There are also almost certainly several Chaos Daemon-Blades that have individual names, though the only ones I can think of off-hand are Drach'Nyen, daemonblade of Abaddon the Despoiler (Warhammer 40,000) and the Slayer of Kings, daemonblade of Archaon, Warmaster of Chaod (Warhammer Fantasy). While the Plague Knives of the Plaguebearers (Daemons of Nurgle) might warrant a mention, I don't think the idea of daemonblades is otherwise unique (Stormbringer is a good example of this from another fictional universe) so less mention is warranted.
[edit] Crysknives
Also, Dune. How big are Crysknives?
- From page 54 of the 34th printing, "...the blade was perhaps twenty centimeters long." — Ryan 14:50, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up
I've added a cleanup tag to the article, it seems to be a complete mess as it stands, and there are parts of the article which are ambiguous to wether or not it actually features in fiction. I've also removed the "mythology"-parts of the article. Mythology certainly does not classify as fiction, and I would advise you to check its article on that. Furthermore, there already exists an article which lists mythological and legendary weapons(which certainly is a mess as well). Satanael 13:36, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Manzorus
I've added in Manzorus, which is a sword out of Beyond War, a novel by Boyd Robertson. If you look it up on Google or anything else you won't find it, becasue the novel is not published yet. The article on the rest of the novel will come soon.
Yeah, I removed most of that. Torquebomb 11:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Masters of the Universe
Seems like The Power Sword (aka the sword of Grayskull), The Sword of Protection and the Energy Blade should make the list.
Other Swords to consider are:
The Ebon Blade (Marvel Comics) The Broadskall (Sectaurs toy line/Marvel Comics) The Sun Sword (Thundarr The Barberian animated series) The Golden Lance (Galtar animated series)
[edit] Organization
Why on Earth aren't these swords listed in Alphabetical order within their catagories?
[edit] Zatoichi
Zatoichi is a blind swordsman featured over twenty Japanese films. He wandered feudal Japan with a cane which consealed a sword. It was his constant companion.
Zatoichi's Cane Sword is nearly superior to a katana and was created by a master swordsmith just before his prime. The only thing is, I don't believe it had a proper name. Does this exclude it from the list?
[edit] Tales of The Otori
In the Tales of The Otori Takeo inherited Shigeru's sword but I can't think of its name. If anyone remembers it I think it should be posted.
[edit] Template
Does anybody else agree that a template would help the cleanup of this article? Something along the lines of Template:Sword? If so, what parameters should be included? — Ryan 15:06, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Conan
What about adding the swords from Conan the Barbarian under movies. While they are not mentioned in the Robert E Howard books, in the movie there are 2 that I think are worth mentioning. The Sword of Atlantis, a sword found in a burial mound that was entombed with "Crom". And The Father's Sword, a weapon made to the highest possible man made standards by Conan's father, a blade sought out and killed for by Thulsa Doom which is later destroyed in a fight with The Atlantian and then the hilt and damaged blade used to behead Thulsa Doom.
[edit] Notability
I intend to remove Boyd Robertson and Raven Night from this list for non-notability.
Torquebomb 13:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] add more Final Fantasy Swords
Believe it or not people, Final Fantasy 7 isn't the only game in the damn series. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.34.10.182 (talk) 21:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
