Talk:List of famous United States Naval Academy alumni

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Appending "lost" remarks (aka Lessons Learned) during this sections spin-off process! It's another example of style concerns taking defacto priority over fact (substance) verification.

The adult lifelong learning (ALL-WinWIn) connections and mentoring relatonships with faculty are obscured. The eidting history of participating contributors also gets disconnected ...

Added category & linkage back to main article from which this listing was correctly cloned.
RJBurkhart 11:52, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] PDLog for USNA notable graduates section

The "Graduates famous outside the Navy" should probably me merged with the the other notable graduates. Jimmy Carter certainly acheived his greatest notoriety oustide the Navy, yet is not in the outside the Navy group. John McCain is notable both for his naval service and his post-naval career.

Only three astronauts among dozens graduated from the Academy are listed. One of the most well known USNA graduates, astronaut James Lovell is not listed. A deputy assistant cabinet secretary is listed, but 5 secretaries are not.

The whole list needs to be rationalized in terms of who to include, and their organization.
24.209.173.129 06:26, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think naming Cape Leahy is Adm. Byrd's claim to fame. If no one objects, I'm going to remove it.
24.209.173.129 07:12, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

. No objections, so I removed it (now on famous graduates page).
MayerG 06:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC) (same person as 24.209.173.129).

Interesting adaptation of UNless Otherwise DIRected (UNODIR) collaboration practices.

From USNA social network analysis, the point of including Cape Leahy was to illustrate his respect for both Leahy's leadership model and sustained support of polar expeditions where Byrd moslty served as a figurehead after pre-staging support was completed by USCG RADM Richard Cruzen.
RJBurkhart 11:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Faculty; History

The article will have to be renamed, or the faculty moved back to the main article, or a separate article created for them. Were these two men even on the faculty?-- the included information is not clear. Given that only two supposed faculty are named, a separate page does not seem warranted yet. Also, the faculty section contains some irrlevant (to a list of notable graduates) bits of history (e.g. increased importance due to the Spanish American War) which should be in the main article, not here.--MayerG 16:26, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

I've done a bit more checking. I can find no evidence Maury was ever a faculty member at the Naval Academy. According to his Wikipedia entry, Sigsbee was assigned to the academy, but not clear that he was on the faculty (many officers and men are assigned to the Academy without being on its faculty). The entire faculty section is just a copy and paste from the History section of the main article. Can anyone provide evidence about the faculty status of these two?--MayerG 16:49, 25 January 2006 (UTC)