Talk:List of deadliest Atlantic hurricanes

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[edit] How to make changes to this list?

Making changes to this list needs to be done carefully. Many of these storms don't have articles, so there are no other sources *within* wikipedia. The main source is the NHC document given in the sources; post-1996 storms use the main hurricane article as their source. Changing any numbers for pre-1996 storms I think would make things a lot harder to verify - the solution here is that anything that's going to be changed needs to have its own source, with {{note}} added to the sources list and {{ref}} used on that storm's entry in the table. Jdorje 23:35, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry if I was too bold, but I added summaries for the 6 deadliest hurricanes. Hurricanehink 22:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Adding summaries is good. What we have to be careful with is changing the ordering of the list. Because of uncertainty over the number killed, it is impossible to impose a fixed ordering on the list. Thus if we try to change the ordering ourselves, we run into POV issues. Just as an example, Flora is listed at #6 with 7,200-8,000 deaths (even though the flora article says 7,192), whereas the #5 entry gives 2,000-8,000 deaths. It might be tempting to reverse the two entries, but really there is no basis for any ordering at all. Which is why we have to go to official sources - the NHC - and use their ordering. Only when the NHC doesn't give updated information in the list (for mitch or okeechobee for instance) should we change the ordering. — jdorje (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You sure the table is best where it is? I personally liked where it was before. Now, there's too much white space. Hurricanehink 01:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I really didn't like it going adjacent to the storms text. If it was made narrower it would fit there, however. Feel free to play around with the formatting to find something that looks better. — jdorje (talk) 02:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, that was before you added pics. It's better now. Hurricanehink 02:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I couldn't decide whether it was better to use the storm track or have no picture. We need more pictures for these storms... — jdorje (talk) 04:24, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I guess the storm track is better than nothing, but only barely. More pictures would be great, but 1930 and 1780 don't have anything. Hurricanehink 12:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Storms text

The text on storms that we have here should not just be a general overview of the storm. It should focus on the impact and particularly deaths. Maybe this is a problem for some storms that don't have articles and aren't well covered anywhere, but the season article should have the main storm histories for those storms. For this list we need to keep the text concise and tell where, how, and how many people were killed. — jdorje (talk) 02:22, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What if.... ?

What if this article were changed to (or we created) that of List of Atlantic hurricanes by death toll. Yes, I am proposing listing every deadly Atlantic hurricane. It would be quite long, though it would be very useful. Thoughts? Hurricanehink (talk) 19:46, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The WP:SIZE guideline says that science articles shouldn't be too long.Mitchazenia(8600+edits) 19:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

List articles are different, though. Hurricanehink (talk) 20:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)