Talk:List of capsicum cultivars

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This is a daunting task. Ironically, that's why it's a good list to create. Pretty please, add to the list, even if just a single entry. --Kaz 18:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Standard measurements 2 Ambiguous Cayenne 3 Penis? 4 HOTTEST CHILI 5 Reorganization

[edit] Standard measurements

Can we stop the fight between the metric system and the Imperial/U.S. units? Discuss here which ones we're going to use and why you think it's the best system. -- Salanth 09:32, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

As currently written, the text does not comply with my reading of Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Units_of_measurement.

• The use of quotation marks instead of spelling out "inches" is not sanctioned.
• Conversions should generally be included.
• If for some reason the choice of units is arbitrary, choose SI units as the main unit, with other units in parentheses. For subjects dealing with the United States, it might be more appropriate to use U.S. measurements first, i.e. mile, foot, U.S. gallon.

Since I don't think that it can be argued convincingly that this article deals with the United States, I think SI units should be the main unit, with other units in parentheses.--Walter Siegmund (talk) 16:46, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree that SI units should be used with imperial equivalents in parentheses per the MOS link above. eg "2.5 cm (1 in)" -- I@n 02:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

I took it upon myself to convert the units. — mæstro ^t/c, 08:11, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

The most common measurement of peppers found on the web, by far, is English/Imperial system. This was therefore the established system for this article, is not arbitrary, and shall remain so. --Kaz 15:29, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

The web is irrelevant. The Manual of Style clearly specifies that standard international SI units shall be given preference over imperial. Wikipedia is not a forum for promoting imperialism. - MPF 13:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ambiguous Cayenne

Why cayenne pepper, usually considered a c. annuum cultivar (see for example http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/profile_cayenne.html ), was included in the c. frutescens species? it:user:Blakwolf 09:12, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Penis?

"Penis – hot – this orange pepper, 8-17 cm (3-7 in) long, is shaped as its name implies. Normally grown ornamentally."

Vandalism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.216.201.27 (talk • contribs) 12:03, 22 November 2006.

Nope, it's a real pepper. Jacobshaven3 15:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] HOTTEST CHILI

THE HATTEST PEPPER IS THE CHIPITIN —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.150.208.56 (talk) 05:41, 22 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Reorganization

So, I switched the list to a table because the list was very difficult for me to scan for information at a glance. The table, however, tends to highlight missing information. In the next week or so I'll start looking for heat and length info where missing and references for numbers wherever possible. More images would be nice, too, but aren't really a priority. — Laura Scudder ☎ 16:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I merged the "sweet" and "hot" lists with each other... such a distinction is too informal, I think. I also removed some peppers from the first group where there was no real useful information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.107.60.65 (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

This list is just ridiculous. I think we should limit it to peppers that are relatively common. So, unless there's objection, I'm going to redo the list to include *only* the following: Aji, Anaheim, Banana (Pepperoncini), Bell, Cascabel, Cayenne, Cherry, Chiltecpin, de Arbol, Fresno, Mirasol, Habanero, Jalapeno, New Mexico, Pasilla, Pimento, Poblano, Rocoto, Scotch Bonnet, Serrano, Tabasco, Thai, Yellow Wax. I'll also throw in the Dorset Naga, Naga Jolokia, and Red Savina because of their distinction as some of the very hottest chiles. If anyone else has suggestions, please let me know. Elchip 14:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

What's ridiculous about it? If a variety exists it belongs on this list. How are you going to make the very subjective call over what is common and what is not? --Monotonehell 17:15, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that a cultivar is not the same as a species, and there are a HUGE number of culviars, many of which are very closely related. Take a look at the list I've included -- there are so many cultivars that I don't even want to count them, and the information provided often doesn't include the size, species, scoville rating, or other important information. If you're not going to include *every one of those*, where do you draw the line? I figured it was better to include only peppers for which we can find a good amount of fairly consistent information, rather than an enormous and messy list of peppers with sporadic information (like what is currently there). If someone really wants to go buy a copy of the "International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants" and list every recognized cultivar here, okay... but until we can get some clear and unambiguous information, shouldn't we be conservative in our listing and only list ones for which we can find a decent amount of data? http://www.chiliguiden.se/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=45&Itemid=118 Elchip 14:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay, how about this: If you can supply the name, the size, the scoville rating, and a description that's more than just a few words long... include it. If not... leave it out. Elchip 14:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

All right, I finished cleaning things up. Everything is now in table form and has all of the requisite information. I guess, now add peppers whenever you have all of the information needed to complete a table entry. Elchip 14:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I guess that's fair. You've done some great work by the way - sorry if my comments detracted from that. You may consider obtaining a username so we can call you something other than a number. ;) --Monotonehell 07:48, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Elchip 14:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)