Talk:List of basketball players from small colleges

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I've gone through all the categories of NBA, WNBA, ABA, ABL, NBL, and American and Canadian basketball players. Every player now has a nationality category, and either a college category or a place on this list. All players in Category:African American basketball players are also now in Category:American basketball players, assuming they belong there. Where else might we find basketball players that went to American colleges?--Mike Selinker 12:02, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

• Answering my own question: The NBA Draft. So that's now checked for colleges.--Mike Selinker 13:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Basketball categories

I'm sure you know this already, but there seems to be two systems of basketball categories around. Ones like Category:Ohio State Buckeyes men's basketball

             -- men's -- players
           /          \ __ coaches
          /
basketball --- women's  -- players
          \            \ __ coaches
           \ 
             --(arena)

and other, like Category:Marquette Golden Eagles basketball, where the men's and women's programs are not separated (though their players and coaches still are). The second type actually might be limited to schools without women's categories, I'm not sure.

If the first system is truly widespread, then I wouldn't dream of suggesting a change, but it seems like over-categorization to me. In almost all cases the top gender categories are empty except for the players and coaches subcats, and seem likely to stay that way. ×Meegs 00:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

This is kind of a compromise. I wanted all the men and women's categories combined, so that "UConn Huskies basketball players" would contain Diana Taurasi and Emeka Ofekor. Lots of other people dissented, wanting them split into men's and women's categories. So the categories are split, but where there is only one gender (almost always men) represented, the player category feeds into the main category rather than a men's category. I think it's pretty clunky, but as I said, I was in the minority on this.--Mike Selinker 09:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Just curious, if this was the compromise, what was the other side's preference? ×Meegs 12:05, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

In a category with only men's articles, there would be a men's basketball category, rather than a feed into the main category. This could still happen.--Mike Selinker 14:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article rename

Shouldn't this article be renamed to "List of basketball players from small colleges" as that is the conventional naming model for lists. --PS2pcGAMER (talk) 02:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

• This, and the companion Football players from small colleges, are unconventional articles. They exist only to categorize articles that aren't categorized in the parent category. Many players in the parent category are from small colleges, so the article itself isn't an all-inclusive list. So by my definition, it fails to meet the qualifications of a list, and shouldn't be called that. Just my opinion, though.--Mike Selinker 09:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
  • I agree with Mike on the name. I'm not totally comfortable with the two lists either; they're grotesque violations of WP:ASR and their criteria changes every time a new cat is created. On the upside, the lists are extremely valuable administratively, and are potentially of interest to readers too. ×Meegs 18:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] come on!

Please include Y.S.U. They are a great small school that should be included. Wikizilla ^{Signme!Complaints Dept.} 01:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that there is anything that is stopping anyone from adding Youngstown State University. I don't know any famous Penguins hoopsters, but maybe you want to create an article for John McElroy, Tony Vivo, Leo Mogus or Jeff Covington if you can make a case for any of them being notable. Be bold, go for it! --After Midnight ⁰⁰⁰¹ 02:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)