Talk:List of all newspapers in the United States

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[edit] Link for each newspaper

I think it is best to provide a potential link for each newspaper, even if red, rather than delete them. 1) It provides a way to know what needs to be written, 2) If it is written, it automatically linked back. dml 17:55, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

What is "major"? Would it work for the criterion to be carriage of legal notices (being a "newspaper of record" in the community)? And if a paper comes out two times a week is that called "weekly"? The particular ones I have in mind are the newspapers of record in their cities (county seats) and one is weekly but the other three come out twice a week. ;Bear 22:20, 2004 Oct 24 (UTC)

[edit] Links for each state

Much like there have been lists provided for each state for radio and TV stations, school districts, etc., for each individual state, it is time to provide individual links to new articles that list newspapers for each state.

That is, "List of newspapers in Iowa," etc.

Each article would then list newspapers that are distributed daily, weekly/bi-weekly, etc., with links to each of those newspapers.

The list in the article "List of newspapers in the United States" is quite lengthy, and needs to be pared down to just the most important newspapers under each state heading. One would be able to list every newspaper published in a particular state under the "List of newspapers in (state)" series. Briguy52748 1720, 2005 June 20 (EDT)

[edit] Criteria for "Major Newspapers"

I've been working on the List of newspapers in Alabama article, and it's getting a bit lengthy itself. The list on this page is not representative, so I will modify it accordingly, but I'm not sure what criteria to use. Here are some possiblities I can think of. Feel free to comment:

  1. The top ten from each state ranked by circulation (according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations)?
  2. All newspapers with a average daily paid circulation above a certain number (30,000? 50,000? 100,000?)
  3. All daily newspapers of record?
  4. The major newspapers from the states' largest cities?
  5. List only papers with significant national distribution here and leave the rest on individual states' pages?

-Dystopos 02:51, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Reduction

I agree with the previous comments: this page needs to be pared down. It exceeds the recommended article size, and also forces users adding new papers to decide if it should be added here, on the individual state page, or both. (An unclear decision, since what constitutes a "major" newspaper is indeed subjective.) I think the most appropriate move would be to make this page simply a list of links to each state list (with the exception of nationwide papers which would remain here). Comments/alternatives/suggestions? Huw 14:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions on method

I suggest that any newspaper intended for national distribution Christian Science Monitor, USA Today, Wall Street Journal, Barons, etc.

"Well known" local newspapers be kept as "national", which would include N.Y. Times, Washington Post, Houston Chronicle, L.A. Times, Chicago's two papers etc. But how do you define a well-known newspaper? So the criteria could be something like the following:

  • Include on this page all "national" newspapers
  • Include all "well known" papers, ones having more than some minimum subscription and generally having use outside their local areas. Basically I think any paper doing over 250,000 or 500,000 copies a day qualifies.
  • Divide this article into individual state pages
  • Include on the state pages ALL newspapers of public record
  • Include on the state pages any paper having at least some minimum circulation relative to that state, i.e a paper in Cheyenne, Wyoming getting 1,000 subscribers generally has more significance than a 10,000 subscriber paper in New York City.
  • Include on the state page any local paper which is the only paper for that town or county
  • Include papers that fit the criteria even if no article exists for them, i.e redline links (at this time). We need to include the links as it might encourage someone to write an article about a known nearby paper in their area.

Paul Robinson 19:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Might it be better to use transclusion, instead of entering the text naming newspapers here, we reference them from their original pages through the include context {{source_article}} which, while normally used as a template, can be used to have other articles work as transclusion templates. I have to look at how to use articles outside the template workspace to figure out how this is done for non-template articles, but I think it might be useful.

Paul Robinson 19:19, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

  • I have figured out how to use transclusion to use links from other pages. Take a look at the entries for California and Florida, they consist solely of a single line consisting of transclusion of the list pages. Paul Robinson 20:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] I have done it!

I have been able to create the individual state entries as transclusion links. By taking a state page and marking it so that parts are not transcluded, the state page can include local smaller papers.

This works beautifully; see Alabama's page (List of newspapers in Alabama) to see how it includes the major papers here but the smaller and weekly papers are shown ONLY on that page. It is conceivable that inividual items in various states can be kept off this article by use of <noinclude> </noinclude> to exclude them. Paul Robinson 21:20, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of newspapers in the United States

The title of this list was "List of newspapers in the United States." When you opened the list, you saw

  1. List of major daily newspapers distributed nationally in the United States
  2. List of major daily metropolitan newspapers (by state) in the United States
  3. List of weekly newspapers in the United States, and
  4. a few other lists.

If the above were maintained, then the name of the article should have to renamed List of lists of newspapers in the United States. In addition, there are subjective problems with some of the above lists (e.g., the term major) but not all of the above lists. Subjective problems are better dealt with on an individual list. Based on existing lists, the types of newspapers as defined in newspaper types, and a general search of Wikipedia for articles relating to lists of newspapers in the United States, I have attempted to rearrange newspapers in the United States into the below lists:

Comprehensive

Days delivered

Circulation

Specialty

Other

-- Jreferee 18:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

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