Talk:List of United Kingdom locations

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Contents 1 Source 2 Reorganize/reformat 3 Categories 4 Oddity 5 Welsh Location, Counties 6 Counties 7 To do list

[edit] Source

The first upload of this list as a single enormous file on Multilingual Wikisource was a compilation of material researched by Mike Simpson of Penrith, NSW, who posted the same list in subfiles at rootsweb.com. He says "I am happy for you to use the data any way you wish, however, please do not attribute it to me, as I collected it from a lot of sources, and so much of the work was not mine." —Theo (Talk) 12:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganize/reformat

The subpages for this series of articles are extremely large, most show up on the list of long pages. I looked through some of the pages to think about how to reorganize, but I didn't come up with any great ideas. Anyone else? RainbowCrane 19:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

• I am not sure that I agree with "extremely" large and in my opinion the subpages are not too large to be effective. The longpage limit is largely a historical issue that has been superceded by browser improvements. Are you having problems with load times? —Theo (Talk) 20:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
• Load time for me is ~20-30 seconds. We've got a T6, so the slowness is probably not on my end of the connection :-). That's quite a bit of time for load, possibly worse if users have a modem connection, but the big issue for me is usability. When a page is more than a few screens long users tend to get frustrated. RainbowCrane 15:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• You have convinced me. —Theo (Talk) 16:16, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
• The pages are indeed very large - W is currently 258 Kb. They need to be split further by at least the first two letters, in the same way that B, C, and S currently are. I think around 100Kb is probably a useful size. We, for example is 78Kb on its own. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 15:04, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
• I congratulate Zzuuzz on this. They need splitting up further; Hi-Hz is itself quite massive.--Holdenhurst 12:41, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I'd agree that the pages need splitting to make them smaller and easier to edit - more sections would be helpful too eg sections at the third letter rather than the second. There's also a huge amount of Disambig Link Repair to be done, I'm doing bits and pieces as I come across them, but all help would be appreciated! DuncanHill 21:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

I also think splitting up the articles more is a good idea. For ease of finding the article for a particular place as long as the index is good, then having a large number of smaller articles is not a problem. I cannot really think of any good reason to have a smaller number of large articles. Think this is a great resource by the way, should greatly aid the addition of coords to UK places. GameKeeper 23:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories

This set of articles deserves a category of their own. Any objections if I move all the articles into Category:List of United Kingdom locations by name and place this category into Category:Geography of the United Kingdom Category:Lists of places in the United Kingdom Category:Lists of coordinates? GameKeeper 23:43, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree with this - they belong in their own category because they are otherwise getting spread all over the place - and they are probably going to multiply in number. I was going to do it, but was uncertain of the best name. I'm still uncertain, but your suggestion is the most obvious and quite appropriate, and we can always rename it later. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 23:57, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It makes sense to me.—Theo (Talk) 01:17, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Minor amendment, taking a look at similarly organised categories Category:Lists of people by name . Is a popular one. That is plural so I think Category:Lists of United Kingdom locations by name. GameKeeper 08:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

it is done now GameKeeper 19:56, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Oddity

Take a look at List_of_United_Kingdom_locations:_M#My, I see the 'coor d' and 'gbmappingsmall' as red text. If I edit and preview it looks OK. but when I save its wrong again. If this just me? Anyone know what is happening? GameKeeper 21:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Weird. I get it too, starting at Mynachdy, but only 'coor d' in red for three lines, then gbmappingsmall too. Tried a few things to no avail. Maybe splitting the page will help :) -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

I saw this again, when I formated S into table format, so I split it up and it seems to have solved the issue. GameKeeper 20:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I think there is a limit to how many templates you can use on one page - obviously quite a few! -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:08, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

M is now split so it no longer occurs. I am sure your diagnosis is correct. GameKeeper 22:38, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Welsh Location, Counties

• These should be listed <English county> (<Welsh county>).
• At present the Welsh counties are listed with the Welsh name, followed by the English name. I think the wikipedia standard is to use English most prominently. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) . GameKeeper 21:34, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Counties

A lot of the entries under County are not actually counties. For instance Kirklees is a metropolitan borough. The most correct list of counties would be a combination of Council Areas of Scotland, Ceremonial counties of England and Principal areas of Wales. these could be derived from the current entries , but if we replace them , we lose information. Any ideas what is best? GameKeeper 23:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] To do list

I have been making a few changes and thought its best to list what I think needs to be done . Because there are an awful lot of lists to revert if you don't like what I have done. Any extras welcome too. GameKeeper 23:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

1. Split all lists over 100kb (see Special:Longpages, note this is cached and may be outdated). to do Sa-Sm Ll-Ly Hi-Hz Ba-Bn La-Li Ha-Hh Sn-Sti
2. tabulate all lists done Keith D 12:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
3. wikilink all gbmapping templates done Keith D 12:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
4. Reverse welsh county naming.
5. WP:DAB all the links (will take the rest of my life!)
6. Add Northern Ireland places
7. Design and use a template to show sub-letter headings, complementing Template:A-Z multipage list done by User:Bryan Derksen see Template:Lists of United Kingdom locations
8. Identify and add ===<group name>=== for large 3 letter groups