Talk:List of Torchwood episodes

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Contents 1 Summaries 2 Stub articles? 3 Infoboxes 4 Article names 5 Naming conventions poll 6 Episode 8 7 New Episode Titles? 8 Images 9 Trivia 10 Titles/order 11 Series 2 12 Last two episodes...air dates? 13 Discussion of images

[edit] Summaries

Is there a copyright concern in lifting the summaries verbatim from the BBC site, or am I being paranoid? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

No, you're right. It's a blatant copyviolation and should either be rewritten or removed. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me. I'll rewrite them at my next opportunity. Radagast 14:04, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Done. Hope they pass muster. Radagast 18:37, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Stub articles?

We had stub articles for the 2006 DW episodes long before we had a complete list of titles. Is the plan to create articles as they are broadcast? --Billpg 10:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

We were able to do that because DW's production was being watched far more closely, so we had sufficient information. Torchwood is a bit of a different animal; I think it's fine to create the articles as the episodes air. Radagast 14:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

While we're on the subject, would it be worth renaming the article for the "Captain Jack Harkness" episode to have a "(Torchwood episode)" suffix, rather than just "(Torchwood)", in the same way that the Dalek episode from last year was named "Dalek (Doctor Who episode)". --Billpg 10:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Either that, or put a disambiguation notice at the top of the article (once it's made). Radagast 14:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

When we do make the articles, remember that according to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles we shouldn't put the (Torchwood) disambiguation after a title if there would otherwise be no Wikipedia page for it. The first episode should be at Everything Changes, not Everything Changes (Torchwood), but the second should be at Day One (Torchwood), since there are other meanings of Day One. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:07, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually, strike that example: it turns out that there are a couple of songs called "Everything Changes", so Everything Changes should probably be a disambiguation page. But episode 4 should be at Cyberwoman, not Cyberwoman (Torchwood). (I don't think there are any other meanings of "Cyberwoman", do you?) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 03:06, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. More seriously, there were several cyberwomen in Doctor Who, including Jackie and the leader of Torchwood 1. Its conceivable someone might start an article on them. --Nantonos 20:42, 30 October 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Infoboxes

Should Torchwood have its own infobox? Template:Doctorwhobox might work, as the only field not appropriate to Torchwood (Doctor=) is optional. Laïka 15:24, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I was thinking the Doctorwho one would suffice, although it doesnt gave teh capabilities to place an episode screen capture in the box its self, or does it? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 15:38, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article names

I noticed a couple of comments about the article names, above: Going by WP naming conventions, articles should be at Episode Name if the name is unique, or Episode Name (Torchwood episode) if they are not. -- Chuq 00:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree, and made this point above. There is unlikely to be another article at Invisible Eugene or Countrycide; therefore, that's where the episode articles should be. We should avoid unnecessary disambiguation. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:49, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

To clarify: the examples given at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles are Bart the Fink and The Sting (Futurama). Following that model, we should have Cyberwoman and Small Worlds (Torchwood). I don't think that specifying "Torchwood episode" is necessary, except in cases like Captain Jack Harkness (Torchwood episode) when the (Torchwood) disambiguation isn't necessarily sufficient. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Consistency among articles is paramount, and the precendant seems to support appending a suffix for consist. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 20:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

(edit conflict with FireFox) What precedent would that be? Certainly not the precedent of Doctor Who episode articles. We have The Keys of Marinus and Marco Polo (Doctor Who), Rose (Doctor Who) and The Unquiet Dead. This has been discussed by the Doctor Who WikiProject here, and a prior consensus held that in this case a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 20:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

As per the Doctor Who series specifically, I believe article names should be at the actual episode name if possible, otherwise it should have (Torchwood) at the end, per Chuq above. — FireFox (talk) 20:18, 29 October 2006

There is a very clear precedent for consistent suffixes at Category:Star Trek episodes, which in my mind looks clean and professional. Though I'd agree that the Torchwood community should decide for itself what is the most consistent way to handle episode titles here. --Elonka 23:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

There is an equally clear precedent for disambiguating only when necessary at Category:Doctor Who serials, which is surely more closely related. (Although Torchwood is a different series, I think it would be odd to have one standard for Doctor Who episodes and another for Torchwood episodes.) —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:04, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions poll

There is an ongoing poll and Request for Comment at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC Episode Article Naming conventions which has direct relevance to how to title the Torchwood episode articles. All interested editors are therefore strongly encouraged to participate, to ensure that your wishes are incorporated into the consensus process. --Elonka 22:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I would like to bring this to more attention, really. In the Simpsons Wikiproject there's something about changing all names with other meanings to something like: The Front (The Simpsons episode). By this it would be like Ghost Machine (Torchwood episode). What do other people think?--ANDY+MCI=Andy Mci 17:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I think there's no real reason to disambiguate "Ghost Machine (Torchwood)" to "Ghost Machine (Torchwood episode)" unless there's already an article called "Ghost Machine (Torchwood)", in the same way that there'd be no need for the "(Torchwood)" suffix if there wasn't another article named "Ghost Machine". --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Episode 8

Is now called They Keep Killing Suzie[1][2].--GracieLizzie 18:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Personally I like it less than the more subtle They Keep Killing as I think it sounds a bit silly. --GracieLizzie 19:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

The episode title is inspired by Doomwatch DavidFarmbrough 17:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Actually it's inspired by The Avengers episode 'They Keep Killing Steed' (@)

Actually it isn't inspired by anything until you can cite it ;-) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 00:35, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Episode Titles?

This Is Torchwood and Meat Eater replace the titles of Invisible Eugene and Combat? Confirmation of this? Clockwork Apricot 22:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I was just bold and added the screenshots to this list, revert if you don't like it but I thought it looked good! — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I think we can avoid it, I deliberately didn't add screen capture cells when I created it as I believe we can avoid it ;-) thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 22:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Aww go on. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

The cells just look messy with images though... thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 22:51, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Awwwwww go on..... (ó_ò) — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Feel free to revert me.. I'm not interested in warring over this.. but I wont self revert as my opinion sticks.. I've stated my opinion that I really don't think we have to/need to.. and my opinion is it looks better without. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 23:12, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Hehe ok then. I was just being silly before. I won't revert you. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Aww, they look great... then again I think all episode lists should be like this *cough*Doctor Who*cough* :-p --Codenamecuckoo 10:11, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Trivia

Greeks Bearing Gifts was also the title of an [InspectorMorse] episode

Okay, and your point is? :P Illyria05 (Talk • Contributions) 05:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Titles/order

The newest posting of Torchwood This Week has a couple new bits: Invisible Eugene is now titled Random Shoes; as well, Combat has been swapped into the Episode 10 slot, Out of Time up to # 11.

I'd adjust this in the list but I can't seem to find a corroborating source. Any thoughts? Radagast 19:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, since those episodes are just a few weeks away, we can amend this listing as they air. DonQuixote 20:12, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

My EPG is telling me its now Random Shoes instead of Invisible Eugene. It doesn't yet mention Combat and Out of Time so I'm unsure about them. --Riche 21:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

The Radio Times magazine says it's 'Invisible Eugene' while the website claims 'Random Shoes'. Personally I prefer the original. (@)

Out of Time appears to be before Combat in my EPG now. --Riche 22:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Series 2

Should we go ahead and add the table for series two with all the information unknown (similar, to some extent, to what we have for Doctor Who Series 3/Season 29 on the List of Doctor Who serials)? Or should we wait till some more information (e.g. writers etc) are announced. --GracieLizzie 16:55, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Episode by episode as information becomes available from the BBC. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Has a second series even been announced yet? Slimeknight 17:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 17:33, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Last two episodes...air dates?

Where is the source for Captain Jack Harkness and End of Days being both broadcast on the 1st January 2007? --Riche 23:19, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

We could mention the radio times christmas special as a source, it seems to back up the dates and info posted here Willow177 13:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

So Captain Jack Harkness and End of Days are being shown on a Monday rather than a Sunday like the rest? ≈ Seraph 15:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

yep, your right seraph, and like combat, its a 21.30 start, unlike the rest of the series Willow177 18:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Ok. My EPG is now telling me the same. --Riche 22:59, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of images

There's a discussion about the inclusion of images in this list here; all editors of this page and/or interested parties are welcome to join. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 07:30, 22 January 2007 (UTC)