Talk:List of Star Trek planets

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[edit] Planetary classifications

Do you think we should add a section (perhaps at the top) to list all the different planetary classificaions? E.g. M-class planet is habitable by humans, with similar atmosphere and gravity. I would suggest a table with class, description and a known example. Marky1981 10:07, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Finally found an article concerning this: Star Trek planet classifications. Marky1981 23:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gornniska - FALSE

Gornniska is not a canon name. It's not even in the books. I know, I made it up as part of my Gorn language and reference guide to the Gorn I played in a sci-fi RPG The Cross-Franchise Cantina. It was all speculative and all from my head. I'm always amazed at how much of the information from that little reference spread across the net. The original is now long deleted, but pieces of my original work still exist here and there, and I'm constantly amazed at how many people picked up and expanded on it.--The reverend 23:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I renamed Gornniska as "Gorn homeworld". I thought the name came from the TOS animated series myself, but if you made it up then it should be changed. Its like the Kzinti race which appears in the Star Trek Fleet books and the RPG, the Kzinti were created by Larry Niven in his series Ringworld. He wrote and episode of the Star Trek animated series and included his Kzinti race as the main antagonist and now so many Trek references of the Kzinti have appeared. They are considered non-canon to the universe, however, in the TNG episode Conspiracy, when Remmick is looking at a map of Federation space, a planet named Kzin appears on it along with other planets from the animated show, like Phylos and Mudd. Im sure it was just a production crew homage to those worlds, but having appeared in the show, are they technically canon? Cyberia23 22:23, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Argo

I know that in the Leslie Fish song Banned from Argo the crew of a certain starship visited Argo for shore leave, and that she wrote a book to go with it (not sure if it's been published yet or not)--but it's in the list of Star Trek planetary classifications as an example planet ("Class O planets range in age from 3 to 10 billion years old. Their diameters range in size from 10,000 to 15,000 km. They are always located in the ecozone region of a star's solar system. Class O worlds have an extreme abundance of water covering more than 80% of their surface. They have Class M-like atmospheres, with oxygen/nitrogen and other trace elements. There is almost always life, but almost all of it is aquatic plant and animal life, with little land mass to evolve surface creatures. Sentient races evolving on such worlds are likely to be aquatic in nature. Example: Argo") as if it were part of canon. Don't know if it is or not, but it'd be awfully weird to have a planet in that list without having it here, or vice versa. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.19.6.120 (talk • contribs).

I have no idea what your talking about, but for the record, Argo was from the Star Trek: The Animated Series which is considered non-canon. This list of planets is canon only (so far) and taken from the show and movies only. The example of Argo under the Class-O planets was given as a Class-O example in the book Star Trek Star Charts where the classification data comes from. Cyberia23 23:52, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up effort

Please help clean this place up. It's getting out of hand and overloaded with BS. To keep things simple, planets should only get a few sentence description, primarily indicating what it was involved with in the series followed up by the episode, or episodes it was in. Non-canon planets (those not on the TV series, and invented by fans, or in comic books, or in novels, and the animated series) don't belong here, so don't add them. Any long-winded unsourced fancruft is going to get deleted as well. We don't need to know unessary stuff like a planet's surface temperature or how many moons it has. Thats not the point of this listing plus most of that data is fan speculation at best. Please follow these guidelines to keep this place under control. Any problems could result in it's deletion from Wikipedia or the reporting and banning of users who cause problems. Thank you. Cyberia23 07:30, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree with keeping the descriptions short and fancruft free, but Any problems could result... the reporting and banning of users who cause problems. does sound a bit harsh just for enthusiasm! Marky1981 09:26, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Need inlien citations, so many 'Trek articles are not using reference tags, i will try and convert them tommorow for this article. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 21:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion for cleanup

-Split page to three sections
-Create links to separate pages for each planet if needed
-maybe place episode name and which series next to planet
-Or even better, as displayed below, could break Star Trek planets down by series and then list planets alphabetically setting up links for signifigant planets.

This would allow for an easier to navigate list such as the following:
Star Trek

  • blah
  • blah
  • blah

The Next Generation

  • Alpha Laputa IV -
  • Alpha Omicron VII
  • Alpha Onias III

[edit] Citations needed.

This article is huge, and its poorly cited. Good time for housekeeping. Please add sources for each item. - Stephanie Daugherty (Triona) - Talk - Comment - 06:55, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Iota Geminorum IV

Iota Geminorum IV - Home of the Tribble; Enterprise episode "The Breach". Klingons once sought to drive the Tribbles to extinction and once bombarded the planet; DS9 episode "Trials and Tribble-ations".

&, about "Trouble with Tribbles"??

Thank You.

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[edit] My cleanup plans

Just in case anyone wanted to raise objections or avoid duplication of work, here's what I intend to do to this article tomorrow:

Also, whilst having ref tags is appreciated, since this primary source material we are citing, it would be good if we could give more context to their mentions. In particular: we need to know whether the name was spoken in dialog, or seen in an illegible Okudagram, that sort of thing. It would be good to note when an episode is actually set on a planet, too. As an example, the first entry in the list, Aaamazzara : I somehow really doubt that that film establishes that planet as the homeworld of the Aaamazzarite species at all. It doesn't even mention that species Aaamazzarite by name: this stuff comes from instead a "Making of" book at the time. The list of full of this stuff. Just because it looks well-referenced doesn't mean it is. Morwen - Talk 12:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Aaamazzaria was added because it was on Memory Alpha's planetary list as well. They have a lot of semi-conon references. Some of these aliens appreared on screen and were referenced in different places, like the original RPG by FASA and some of the behind the scenes books by Paramount. I don't consider the RPGs canon but I wasn't sure which resource they came from. If Memory Alpha said the movies I added them to the list. If it was from the RPGs or even the Animated Series I ignored them. Cyberia23 00:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
IMO Wikipedia shouldn't base decisions on whether to include something on whether it's "canon" or not, we should just make sure to indicate which facts come from which sources and let readers decide what to accept based on their own consideration. So in this case we should say that the name of the planet was mentioned in the film and the species that lives there was introduced in the RPG. Bryan 06:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
It's funny because I don't remember demanding this information be removed, only that it be properly sourced. Morwen - Talk 07:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I've been involved in inane canon/not-canon inclusion debates before on other articles so I was a bit jumpy and wanted to head anything like that off at the pass. I was careful to phrase it as just a general opinion, though. :) Bryan 07:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm really here referring to the odd note left on my talk page accusing me of wanting to purge information about all non-canon sources from Wikipedia. Morwen - Talk 08:02, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Ah, sorry again then. Was thrown by the indentation level. Bryan 08:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Indeed. I'm only a casual Trek fan myself, though, I only vaguely remember most of these episodes and so can't add much detail myself. I've been dealing entirely with formatting issues here. Others should chip in whatever assistance they can. Bryan 00:19, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Bryan it was an argument between Morwen and me - I misread where she was coming from thinking I'd yet again have to get into a hotly-debated long-winded discussion about what should be here and what doesn't as I've had to before in the past with other Wikipedians - mostly it was a debate to kill an entire article or series of articles because it was deemed "fancruft" and a waste of server space. The peers voted differently and allowed this kind of stuff to remain. Anyway - I'm working on making sure everything is referenced and accurate across multiple sci-fi articles (not just Trek ones). Hopefully the problems can be fixed soon and everyone can be happy. Cyberia23 23:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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