Talk:List of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine characters

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If you have information to add for particular characters please start at List of Star Trek characters. Each character should have his or her (or it's) own page, linked to from there. --STDestiny 03:57, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

I have begun a project in accordance with the consensus reached at WP:FICT to corral minor figures from various fictional universes together on compilation pages. The current list page is just a directory rather than the compilation here. Indrian 04:04, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

1 Keiko O'Brien
2 Tora Ziyal
3 Merged in some minor characters
4 What is the goal of this page, anyway?
5 One time appearance characters
6 Where's Jennifer Sisko?

[edit] Keiko O'Brien

I added markup and kanji such that Keiko O'Brien's maiden name is now represented in the same way as other Japanese names on Wikipedia. There are several ways of writing Keiko in Kanji, so if there's any canon evidence as to the correct characters, this should obviously be modified.

[edit] Tora Ziyal

Shouldn't Tora Ziyal be under T, as her family name is Tora as per her mother Tora Naprem and Bajoran naming traditions (which seem to be favoured over the Cardassian ones)? --Erath 8 July 2005 10:52 (UTC)

I think so. Her own father calls her just "Ziyal" most of the time (probably always). ShutterBugTrekker 22:37, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Merged in some minor characters

I merged in content from pages of minor characters with short articles. Some of these showed up in TNG as well; ideally TNG would also have a compilation page and their roles in each would be listed on the two pages, but this hasn't happened yet. I was thinking of merging in a few more more aggressively, but didn't want to stir the pot too much. Deco 01:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Good idea. As far as I'm concerned, we only keep separate articles for the regular characters (Sisko, Kira, Dax, ...) and semi-regular characters (Dukat, Garak, Weyoun, ...). At some point, though, maybe we should split this article into two (A-M, N-Z) to keep the size manageable. We also may want to trim some sections a bit. The part about Sloan, to name just one, looks like it could be shortened. We don't need episode summaries here; that's what the episode pages are for. ··· rWd · Talk ··· 11:26, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

We should probably also include sections for main characters, but containing only a link to the character's article. I've seen this done in other articles, and this article does not purport to be merely a list of minor characters. Deco 22:47, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

We should take care not to repeat List of Star Trek characters here. The list of major characters and links to their bios is already available there. ··· rWd · Talk ··· 23:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the goal of this page, anyway?

Something I started wondering just yet... What's this page supposed to be? A list of all DS9 characters? List of Star Trek characters already serves that purpose. A collection of biographies for characters not important enough (following WP:FICT) to get their own article, but still important enough to get a bio? That sounds better to me. It also means we can drop about half the list:

The Albino, Melora Pazlar, Vreenak and Yelgrun all appeared in only one episode and aren't major players for the series as a whole. Give them one or two lines of description on List of Star Trek characters or mention them in the article of the major characters they interacted with, and we've got them covered. (Vreenak was probably rather important for the series, despite his one-time appearance. If people want to keep his bio here, that's fine.)
Boday and Keldar were only mentioned a few times and never appeared on screen. Same treatment as above.
The Dax symbiont already has its own article at Dax (Star Trek), so its entry here can go.
Dr. Elizabeth Lense appeared in only one episode, but features strongly in the Starfleet Corps of Engineers novels. Move her bio to an article dedicated to characters from SCE.
Leskit also appeared in only one episode, but features strongly in the I.K.S. Gorkon novels. Move his bio to an article dedicated to characters from the Gorkon.
Elias Vaughn never appeared on screen and was never mentioned. Move his bio to an article on characters from the Relaunch novels.
Kirayoshi O'Brien hardly deserves his own entry (it's basically a repeat of stuff mentioned in Keiko's piece). His sister was a slightly more major character, so she can stay. Too bad for KY, but life is hard ;-)

Note that I don't suggest to delete information, just to relocate it. This article just doesn't seem to have a clear purpose at the moment. I'd say it should be a collection of bios for the major DS9 characters not important enough to have their own article. Any and all thoughts on this are welcome and appreciated. ··· rWd · Talk ··· 23:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

In my opinion, List of Star Trek characters should be broken up by series (for organization and because it's fricking huge). If a character occurs in more than one series, each list should discuss only their role in that series. Then this article subsumes its purpose, but restricted to DS9. Deco 00:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One time appearance characters

Could a separate page be created for them? Like the Albino, Goran'Agar, Melora, Keldar etc? -- Tough Little Ship 00:11, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, I would think the purpose of this page is as a merger for the recurring characters who are significant enough that we can't deny them a page yet not significant enough to have a page of their own the way Garak, Dukat, etc are. Characters like the Albino might be more appropriate for List of Star Trek characters (that's what it's for). Moulder 19:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

In fact, I think no page should be made for them and they (if you like to and there is consensus to keep it that way) should just be deleted. I think the purpose of a list like this is to inform (or remind) viewers to a backstory for a character that actually has one. Really the Albino, Goran'Agar and a few others are best described in the episode they were in and not here. Are not their respecive articles nothing more than rehashing a single episode's plot anyway? Spejic 05:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Dang, forgot to watch this page. I agree with that approach, because if nothing else, just think of the ungodly length of this page if every character who could be considered significant had its own spiel. Think I'll be bold and initiate the change as it's pretty consistent with existing practices.

Actually, I just found proof positive: Vash (a character with more of a part in TNG than DS9, really) redirects to List of Star Trek characters... yet she has a section on our mini-MA. I will merge or delete the one-ep characters and leave ambiguities like Keldar - where else would his name redirect to? - and Elias Vaughn, who's significant in the novels apparently.

Now I have my wikiproject for tomorrow unless someone beats me to it, which I doubt given the lag in responses so far. ;) Moulder 08:54, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

I've cleaned out a few of these -- the Albino, Goran'agar, etc. -- but left a few others that seemed to have justifiable reason to stay. Boday was never seen, but was mentioned often. (Same with Vilix'pran, who doesn't yet have an entry.) I was dubious about Calvin Hudson, but left him because of the mention of his death in "For the Uniform", IIRC. Felt similarly about Keldar; not really sure why he should be in here, but I left him. I left Elizabeth Lense and Leskit because of their roles in the novels. Mora Pol stayed because he was mentioned many times before his single appearance. Melora was nearly a regular on the series.

A few suggested additions: Tekeny Gemor, Jennifer Sisko, Vilix'pran, Shakaar's friends from "Shakaar", "Ties of Blood and Water", and "The Darkness and the Light".

Also, there should probably be mentions of characters with their own articles (with links to said articles rather than full descriptions). I'll add a few in a moment. Roger McCoy 17:05, 8 August 2006 (UTC)