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[edit] Other areas

What about the Sargasso Space Zone, Sector X, Sector Y, Sector Z, Bolse, Area 6 and all of that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wikilord (talk • contribs).

List of Star Fox planets. If you want to do those, it would be better to take them all and add them to a paragraph at the top of the page on the Lylat system. K1Bond007 19:48, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Major copyedit

I've tried to clean up this article a lot. This includes the following:

  • Eliminating or greatly condensing tedious descriptions of gameplay
  • Changing descriptions of game events to present tense (but leaving "historical information" in past tense)
  • Improving grammar and rewording awkward, rambling sections
  • Only linking the first occurence of each term (unfortunately, I may have accidentally removed all links to a particular term - if you notice that I have, please fix it)

I hope to move on to clean up other Star Fox-related articles as well, but I'll probably forget. Aerion//talk 03:23, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for that. I appreciate it when other people help with the articles. Thunderbrand 02:05, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Information

I'd like to ask about some of the information featured in this article. I haven't even heard of some of this stuff, like Cerinia not being a part of the Lylat System? As far as I know, that's neither confirmed nor denied.

Goras? Where the Heck did information about the Goras being a race come from?

Quite a bit of this stuff seems like random fanfiction spliced into the main article. Could somebody help me verify some of this information?

I dunno. A lot of info info came from Arima and the Star Fox (SNES) instruction manual. Thunderbrand 22:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
    • I believe the Goras info came from the Star Fox 64 Players' Guide. Thanos6 17:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Out Of This Dimension"

Should we add a section for that part of the original game? Thanos6 17:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I dunno. if there was a level from the SNES game then yeah I suppose. I don't know what you are referring to since my knowlege of the first game is limited. Thunderbrand 18:57, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
    • It's a secret level you could access by doing something special in the Black Hole level. Thanos6 03:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Yep, it is. http://cheats.ign.com/ob2/068/007/007705.html I guess if you can say a few sentences about it, then sure, put it in. Robert 03:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
      • I'd love to, but, uh, I don't have the game. I just remember it from an old Nintendo Power. Thanos6 04:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Added. And yes, it's exactly as weird as my description implies.Hrimfaxi 15:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Redirecting"

Can someone tell me why on Earth 'Bacoon' redirects to this page? This page has very little about Bacoon on it. Should there not be a page for all the Star Fox bosses?

Because Bacoon was a boss from Aquas, so it went into the Aquas part of the page. I do not believe there should be a page for all bosses of Star Fox 64. A mention on the SF64 article would be sufficent. Thunderbrand 00:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Removals

I've removed some extremely pointless comments about the shape of the X, Y and Z nebulas. Yes, they look like an X, a Y, and a Z. It's hardly worth a paragraph in each about how 'unlikely' this is in one fan's estimation. I've also never heard of or encountered the 'electromagnetic currents' mentioned. Hrimfaxi 14:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

  • They're in the SF64 strategy guide. Thanos6 14:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, but they don't exist in the game. If the comment about sector Y being a 'battleship graveyard' is from the guide, the guide is also blatantly wrong since the briefing and level title ['Fierce Melee'] makes it clear the dead ships are from an ongoing space battle, not from 'electromagnetic currents.'Hrimfaxi 14:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
      • The guide doesn't mean that the ships you fly around are part of the 'graveyard,' just that SOMEWHERE in the sector are dead ships. Thanos6 14:45, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
        • So in an area of Sector Y we've never seen in either game, there may be some ships that have failed due to electromagnetic currents we've never seen either...According to the guide, such currents never being mentioned in the briefings or by anyone during the levels. Um...How about we don't consider that encyclopedia-worthy until we've seen some evidence of it?Hrimfaxi 14:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, a while ago I removed some stuff about electric currents and that. Such as The radiation in Sector Z is around 4.53 ergons of energy, and the magnetic flux near 29%. Particle density is a light 37 c/sg, with albedo averaging .53. The radius of Sector Z is estimated at 12,530 skm. So what that Sector Z has an albedo of .53? Big deal. But, yeah, thanks for doing some clean-up. Thunderbrand 15:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Incidentally, there is a magnetic storm mentioned once in Star Fox 64...It's on Titania, though, not in any of the Sectors. Also, I have heard of the Katina / Katarina difference in N64 magazine, which also called Bolse 'Volus' in reviews of the Japanese version. Googling Volus+Katarina gets Star Fox 64-related articles on the first page, also calling Fortuna 'Ficcina.' Never heard of the alternate spelling of 'Titania' I removed, though, and that's not there. Hrimfaxi 05:15, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Split off Venom?

I was thinking of splitting off Venom back to its own page (like Corneria), since it is rather large, and it seems Venom will play a large role in Command, and therefore more info will be added. Thoughts? Thunderbrand 19:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

If you can get it to be about the same length as Corneria, then I say go for it. We're going to need the room later, and I've certainly seen other articles describing individual aspects of games that are much shorter than this. Robert 12:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More removals

Could people please stop adding dubious information and fanon to the article? It's pure speculation what order the planets are in the Lylat System other than that Corneria is the fourth. It's pure speculation to add in some junk about the G-diffuser on an Arwing being a mapping system rather than a system to aid the pilot in high-G turns. And so on. Also, we really don't need a list of all the bosses here, only the ones with some bearing on the mission itself [Professor Hangar, Plasma Hydra, the Rock Crushers and Blade Barrier, and the Venom bosses strike me as important].

Also, are the boss titles for Starfox 64 actually regarded as official? They don't appear in the game. Hrimfaxi 10:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

The Bosses are named in the Star Fox 64 Nintendo Power Official Player's Guide.
I know that. But given that same guide says Bolse is bigger than Venom, does it have any actual status as canon? They're pretty stupid names, after all. Hrimfaxi 10:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Are the "Warp" sections necessary at all? -Anony

[edit] Sauria

Now I may be Mistaken, but Dinosur Planet Was Never Called Suria in the game to my knowlage... The area of Adventures i can't verify this for is in the final cut scene. (My memory card containing the data that was at the final boss erased it self) Unless it was in The final cut scene It is never called this in the American version of Adventures. Was the name from Assult? --Lego3400: The Sage of Time 23:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes. In SF: Assault, the planet was referred to as Sauria, not Dinosaur Planet. Robert 02:00, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Ah... --Lego3400: The Sage of Time 01:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Remove cruft?

Recently, Ptparatrooper has added a lot of "crufty" information to some of the entries on this page, such as this for Zoness: "The Planetary Data section provided by the player's guide states that Zoness has a radius of 3,354 skm, albedo of 17, gravity of 56 units, escape velocity of 7.23 skm/s, equilibrium K of 283, and an atmosphere of N250+CO221+CH422. The planet is 90% water, has a biomass of 1,670 Quads, and is class T."

Now, to the everyday person who probably played Star Fox 64 once or not at all, this is unimportant and makes the page look unprofessional. Personally, as a fan of the series, this information serves no purpose to me, and half of it doesn't make sense.

Wikipedia:Fancruft and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction) are good examples about how to write about fiction and so forth. We should keep highly detailed stuff like this to a bare minimum or none at all. In short, I wanted to see what other people think of this. Thunderbrand 20:19, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. This information really isn't suitable for an encyclopedia article. As stated above, the average reader won't really have any idea about what this data means. I say it should just be left out, even if it is in the official player's guide. Robert 21:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty, I removed a lot of junk that nobody really cares about. I'm sory I cluttered that page up like that. I added a lot of the info thinking it would be useful because the terms were probably common in discussing planets, but when I tried to look a lot of the units up, I couldn't find anything. So I cut out everything except for how big each planet(/sector/whatever) is and how much water it has, but feel free to edit even that stuff out if it's no good. -Ptparatroopa 22:44, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding. I know your intentions were good, but it is for the best. Thunderbrand 13:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Removed all the 'radius' figures for being, well, bollocks. You don't measure a radius with units of area, and it speaks very poorly of the players' guide as a source if it does. Also, the figure of 20,000 km radius for Bolse [!] is absolutely insane; if that's accurate, Bolse is larger than Venom and is three times bigger than Earth! Hrimfaxi 09:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for getting all that stuff. I kind of forgot about it. Thunderbrand 15:56, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, I just realized this following information regarding Solar. Forgive me for being a nerd here, but I can't help but find this inconsistent. As we know, according to the offical player's guide for SF64, we know that Solar has a surface temperature of 3500 degrees Kelvin, yet when during the actual mission, Slippy says the heat sheilds can take temperatures up to 9000. However, Slippy never mentions what type of degree (Fahrenheit, Celsius, Kelvin) that 9000 degrees belong to. Regardless, the heat shields on the Arwing should be more than capable of handling the heat, considering that 3500º K equals 5840.33º F and 3226.85º C. Even if the Arwings were handled only to take up to 9000º (Fahrenheit), they shouldn't have any problem at all...yet, during the actual mission when playing the game, the heat is so powerful that the shields were gradually drop....moreso when you're closer to Solar's surface than flying high.

I'd add this onto the actual article, but would it be possible that the creators of the guide never put that into consideration? Or would this also be considered cruft? Drake Nightwing 19:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

It's kind of trivial, personally. Thunderbrand 00:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Eh, just thought I'd ask before I did anything to it. Didn't know if anybody would have even been interested in something like that. Drake Nightwing 10:33, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
There's a problem with your logic there: you're assuming that the temperature Slippy quotes is the point where it would start suffering any heat damage, when it appears he's quoting the absolute maximum it was designed to operate under under any circumstances. If the Arwing is rated for an absolute maximum operating temperature of 9000 degrees, that doesn't mean it can operate without any problems at all at 8,999 degrees. The fact that the Arwing consistantly takes damage while over Solar which maxes at about 6000 degrees but survives this damage is actually to be expected given this and not inconsistant at all; it's two-thirds the absolute maximum temperature at which it can operate at all. Hrimfaxi 10:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rob's Sector Y message

Does anyone know why Rob says, "Good luck Fox" in Sector Y? I know it's not a big deal, but he only says it in expert mode. Why? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DarkLink Metroid (talk • contribs).

I'm not really sure; I think it's simply a goodie for players who unlock expert mode, just like how Fox wears sunglasses in that mode and not in the regular game. Robert 13:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "Planets" and locations

"Planets" seems redundant, shouldn't it just be "List of Star Fox locations" or, better yet, "Locations in Star Fox"? — Deckiller 08:30, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree that it is redundant. A move to either would be OK. Thunderbrand 14:17, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ok, who was the idiot

That removed the Trivia I added to the Corneria page? Whats wrong with pointing out the similaritys between Corellia and Corneria. I hate it when people pull stupid crap like this.

If you mean unsourced trivia that is pretty much speculation and made up, then it was me. There are things called WP:V and WP:RS. Thunderbrand 22:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Wow, that is just plain stupid. I don't know if you actually did it, but it was just stupid. It is assumed trivia that is proably true.

You should also know about WP:NPA. Unless there is a reliable source, it will be removed. Thunderbrand 23:05, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
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