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[edit] Spoilers on the page!

BEFORE the spoiler warning, under season 6, it says "During this season, Kenny was replaced with Butters and Tweek until he returned in "Red Sleigh Down". This is clearly a big spoiler! The spoiler warning mark should be higher up, or even better, remove the unnecessary line. Ran4 12:22, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1103??

There is a summary of episode 1103, but as of today (3/15/07) there has been no update on southparkstudios.com or anywhere else I can find that references this episode. I will remove it until a citation can be presented or it appears on an official source. -- Ubergenius 20:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Order of Episodes?

I noticed that the episdoe list infoboxes in the earlier episdoe pages (particularly in Season 3) seem to be out of order in terms of airdate. Are they in production order or something? -- BNLfan53 - Sunday, 2007-02-11 T 16:22 UTC

[edit] Season Four

I don't know if there's some special reason as to why, but it appears that the first two episodes of season four are out of order. - Y.krzepicki 03:03, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Season Three

I dont want to mess with the scripting for tables, so I won't do it myself, but I recommend that the heading for season three be changed to: Season 3: 1999 and the table run through and include "Tweek v. Craig".

Then a break for a new heading: Motion Picture Release, June 30, 1999 with the information for "Bigger, Longer & Uncut"

Followed by a break and then a new heading: Season 3 (continued): 1999-2000 207.69.137.27 02:33, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I feel the movie should be left out of the list of episodes all together, excluding the mention at the top. The list of South Park episodes should only include episodes of the television show, not external projects like motion pictures. Anoncow 02:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kenny's deaths

Maybe we could add the death of Kenny to each episode, rather than starting a list of the many deaths of Kenny? 213.51.209.230 21:17, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The deaths of Kenny are now included in the Kenny McCormick article.
  • Kenny has a freakin reason to die

[edit] episode table

I discovered the use of a table to contain the details of episodes (ex. Lithia (episode)). How would everyone feel about adding tables to the South Park episodes there are articles for? Lachatdelarue (talk) 21:29, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd much rather see either articles created or the overviews on the list to be done before putting infoboxes on articles. Cburnett 21:35, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

wow

[edit] running tally of episodes

Think we should add a running tally of episodes in the episode table? This way people can see which # episode from the start of the series a particular show was? Can someone tell me how to do this? 64.59.209.89 15:30, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] overview not really needed

should that be removed since there is no real need for it (i mean.. just click on the episode to check it out)--Manwe 11:48, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The overview box isn't really needed, since we're working towards articles on every episode (I assume). But maybe it should be used for the episodes we don't yet have articles on... Lachatdelarue (talk) 13:19, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I completely, 100%, whole-heartedly disagree. See List of Star Trek: TNG episodes Cburnett 15:17, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
Actually, I now think the overview's look great. I didn't really think about it much before I left my comment before. Thank you Sfufan for filling those in :) Lachatdelarue (talk) 00:11, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome, I had a great time doing it! Remembering a lot of SP memories... Sfufan2005 03:16, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Call for screenshots

With the new table format, this article needs one screenshot per episode. Need about 122 screenshots. I've been using "Image:Southpark ep101 1.jpg", "Image:Southpark ep101 2.jpg", etc. as the format for mine... Cburnett 04:19, May 1, 2005 (UTC)

I think the screenshots in this list are a bad idea. Even on a reasonably high-speed link, the page takes a while to load as a result. We need to think about our many users worldwide who are on relatively slow dial-up modems. Let me be clear: I have no objections to the screen-shots in general, e.g. if they were on the matching episode pages. It's only having them all here, on one page, that I think is a bad idea. (Links to them would be OK too; it's just including them all directly that I think is a bad move.) Noel (talk) 17:35, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Not sure how best to reply to this.
My browser loads the page first *then* loads the images. My browser also contains a "stop" button that can halt the download of images after downloading the page. Mozilla Firefox and Mozilla Application Suite are free, but I don't want to make using a better browser a requirement. :)
I understand your concern but here's the options I see:
  1. Remove images
  2. Break it up into one page per season (leaving images)
  3. Leave it as is and wait for comments/complaints from people on dial-up (IOW: no premature optimization)
I loathe #1; could tolerate #2; but would prefer #3.
A final option (the best IMO but hardest) is, instead, a software change. It should be fairly simple to add a preference to "disable article images by default" and then have a button on the page to reload the page with images. It could preserve image sizes and locations with a white 1x1 pixel image that can be scaled using the width & height parameters to the image tag at page rendering time. So instead of re-solving the dial-up user problem on a per-article basis, it would be solved for all articles and give the user extra choice. Cburnett 18:39, Jun 24, 2005 (UTC)
I'm currently on 28800 dialup and the page loads fine...  Grue  5 July 2005 19:47 (UTC)

[edit] Question

Has there been a "Jihad" episode? If so, which one(s)? - RoyBoy 800 19:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Meteor Shower

"Episodes 307, 308 and 309 have a fictional crossover meteor shower theme." How is a meteor shower a fictional crossover? Isn't it just a recurring theme?

  • When you click on fictional crossover it explains how it is a TV related term. It's not intended that the meteor shower is in fact fictional. Sfufan2005 01:26, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cartman's song

Does anyone know which episode Cartman sang "Kyle's Mom is a stupid bitch"?--Web kai2000 16:56, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

  • He sang it in "Mr Hanky, The Christmas Poo" and in "South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut". Sfufan2005 20:17, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
  • That was funny!!!!!!!

[edit] Ordering

I think the south park episodes should be numbered by the order in which they were aired. In episode 802 cartmans mom says on the phone he cant come out because hes grounded for trying to exterminate the jews 2 weeks ago. This relates to episode 804 The passion of the Jew. In production order this makes no sense as 802 occurs first, however on comedy central 802 was in fact aired 2 weeks after 804. Any objections to me renumbering the episodes? Discordance 04:26, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Put them in the order of broadcast but keep the production code the same since AWESOM-O is considered 802. Sfufan2005 19:55, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
I meant change the episode number not the production codes. So AWESOM-O would remain 802 as production codes are fixed but the episode number with it would be 116 not 113. This will only affect 1 or 2 episodes per season but in my opinion its better for south park to be ordered by air dates Discordance 22:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm just doing some reformatting on the list at the moment in regards to the wikiproject and the previous featured list candidate comments, if noone has any objections I'll start reordering in a day or so once im done with the formatting and checking the pictures copyright status. Episode 701 has a celebratory scene at the end about it being the 100th episode, at the moment it is number 97 on the list another reason to reorder by AD. Discordance 22:49, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

I've reordered them now as it was only a few episodes Discordance 21:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Follow that Egg!

Is 'that' a preposition? I dont't think it is but im not sure on this one. Need to move the episode back to Follow That Egg! if its not. Discordance 05:09, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Air Date of volcano and weight gain 400

The two episode guides disagree on the air dates i've left it as the dates given on southparkstudios.com but they may be wrong Discordance 19:46, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Sourcing

I've checked that all the images have cited sources now, they all in fact now come from the same source the South Park Studio downloads section. With the exceptions of 215 - Spookyfish and 203 - chickenlover which are from the episode guide section and the early shorts from the how it all began section. Sorry if anyone prefered some of the older shots but it was better to source as many as possible from the same place, made it easier to check them for one thing Discordance 21:03, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jared Has Aides

Huh Sfufan why did you switch the production codes? both the episode guides list Jared Has Aides as 602 not 601. The guides both disagree on air dates for the start of season 6 which is unfortunate but like i said previously I havnt be changing production codes just the order and episode numbers in the final column. Did you mean "was made 2nd but aired first" rather than "was made 1st but aired second". Thanks for catching my other formatting mistakes I do appreciate the help Discordance 01:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

My bad. Jared Has Aides aired 1st but was made second. I'll change that. Sfufan2005 02:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
This is how Season 6 began airing: Jared Has Aides, Asspen and then Freak Strike. Sfufan2005 02:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

thanks, I'm a little concerned about the two reference guides disagreeing on the dates if you know one to be correct could you indicate it in the reference section? If not I'll try to find another source somewhere maybe a south park fan forum or something Discordance 03:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

You can't always depend on some sites. The DVD states JHA was originally aired on March 6, 2002 with Asspen on the 13th and Freak Strike on the 20th. Sfufan2005 17:20, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair Use Rationale

This is the last thing that needs to be done to the article. So far i've done the shorts and season 1. I changed the overviews slightly to relate more to the pictures and made sure the pictures also have a relating caption on their page. In that way ive used the images to identify characters, illustrate the episode, and aid commentary on the episode. Click on the pictures to see the rationales. As you wrote the overviews Sfufan perhaps you'd like to help rewrite them a little? Or if theres better images in the downloads section at southparkstudios perhaps change the image so it relates better to the plot summary (I'm thinking cartman with the transmitting dish would be a better picture for 101s plot overview). I was going to work down from season 1 if you can help maybe work up from season 9? Discordance 03:44, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll help if I have the time. Take your time! Sfufan2005 17:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I've written the rationales, reworded overviews and changed images. Some of the overviews are a bit messy now but hopefully you can see how they relate to the picture. Most of your original captions and overviews were great though. The majority I didn't have to modify at all. Great work sfufan. Discordance 10:44, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Changing images

This page is now a featured list so please be careful when you change images. Trogga your new image is suitable and you sourced it correctly but it needs a fair use rationale like the other images before it is used on this page. i've written one in for it but please anyone who wants to change images in future make sure they are sourced properly and have a fair use rationale. Discordance 16:22, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jay Leno Short

Maybe someone should add the Jay Leno Thanksgiving short (aired Thursday November 20, 1997 on the Tonight show) to the list?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.113.137.211 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC).

Theres a few specials that could be mentioned, but perhaps its time to move them to their own page along with the two original shorts. Discordance 23:40, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Order of List

Shouldn't the list be in order of episode number, as the template on each episode is, not in order of airdate???Mkaycomputer 19:44, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

The reasons for ordering by airdate are given at the start of the article. It affects only a small number of episodes but the ones affected only make sense in airdate order. Discordance 00:50, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Please do not go changing production numbers and air dates randomly all the information was correct, the series was not broadcast in production order as the changes suggested and the production codes are the production codes from southparkstudios.com not broadcast codes, to reorder the list move the entire episode and change the final column number only, dont change air dates and production codes unless you have a source to contradict the information taken from southparkstudios.com. As for the reason the list has been placed in airing order this has been done for continuity as the start of the article states. Discordance 17:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Episodes 102 and 103 may have incorrect airdates as epguides.com gives different airdates from southparkstudios.com. If anyone knows which guide is wrong please post here. Discordance 17:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hidden aliens

Most people know that hidden in every episode of South Park is one of the Aliens from the pilot. They're generally very well hidden and I've only ever noticed a handful myself over the years. Some of them have been mentioned on the various episode pages but there's a lot of gaps.

Stumbling across Google I've never had much success with finding any more information about them, until today. http://southpark.org.ru/english/hidal.htm This website has loads of them listed. But I can't be bothered to go through and add these dozens of different bits of trivia only to have someone remove it saying: "No Reference" or "Fancruft" So can people agree to trust this page as a reference since it comes with pictures? --Simondrake 13:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Titles of episodes

Why are some episodes of shows like 4th Grade appended with "(South Park)" in the namespace while some (like Free Willzyx) aren't? I'd understand if there was a 4th Grade article, but there's not. Cigarette 04:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

I imagine people would object if it was just called "4th Grade", and it could cause confusion. Grandmasterka 00:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Episode 97 and 100 had changed places

Recently it occured to me that the 7'th season episodes i'm a little bit country(episode 97) and cancelled (episode 100) had moved around, i don't know if this was done intentionally, but i set it back as it should be. user:tmr5555 16.05.06 19:31

NOTE: i just realized that this was done beacuse of the airing date, anyhow don't you think it's better to list the episodes by production code?

Er, if you look above on "Order of List" topic you'll find a discussion on production codes and why it should not be used for this list. Sfufan2005 21:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Current Series

Why has the current series stopped after only 7 episodes?--Crestville 18:24, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

it didn't. it will continue after summer. october, i believe. they've been doing it this way for years

Don't wanna wait that long!--Crestville 20:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use debate regarding television screencaps

Currently, there is a debate on Talk:List of Lost episodes regarding whether or not use of a 1/30th stillframe visual excerpt next to a list of audiovisual works (such as List of Lost episodes or List of South Park episodes) is in accordance with WP:Fair use, and has even resulted in the protection of the page.

If you have any opinions regarding fair use on the List of Lost episodes page, please feel free to express them as I believe these two pages are sister projects.

Cws125 05:11, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Use of images in Lists of episodes

A head's up that a weeks-long discussion has been going on at Talk:List_of_Lost_episodes/Use_of_images about the inclusion of screen captured images, such as those used in this list article. The position by some admins appears to be that they are a violation of Copyright and do not fall under Fair Use. Consequently, the images were deleted from the Lost episode list, and likewise will probably be removed from this one-- unless opinion on the use of such images changes. --LeflymanTalk 20:05, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that all images should be deleted from here as with List of Lost episodes. Mahahahaneapneap 18:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
I disagree wholeheartedly with this debate. The deletion of these pictures would be a deterioration of the quality of this article which is a featured article, the best of this site. Sfufan2005 19:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Then they should be put back on the Lost article. Mahahahaneapneap 18:48, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshots as fair use

In order to resolve the long standing debate over fair use of screenshots on List of Lost episodes, I am now trying to resolve the issue under the belief that the issue is an opinionated matter and not a matter of policy. Talk:List of Lost episodes#Fair use criteria number 8. I ask that people share their comments, but please try to keep the conversation in this section focused.

One thing that works against us is that the conversation tries to defend too many points at once. Try not to respond to comments about other aspects of the debate, and just take this one step at a time. Basically, respond if you think this is an opinionated matter regarding policy point 8 of WP:FUC or not.

I believe if we can break through on the issue of point 8, the rest will fall into place. -- Ned Scott 08:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question?

Should there be a list of episodes that end with the phrase " I learned something today? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.60.225.176 (talk • contribs) .

no, that'd be bad fancruft. A good idea for a South Park fansite, but NOT Wikipedia. -- Ned Scott 06:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DVD screenshots

In response to the deletion of DVDs in this article, I feel that they are described in the opening and therefore should be reinstated. If they were being used as a decorative purpose there would be nothing to describe the DVDs. However because of the paragraph in the opening regarding DVD releases it is being used properly. Sfufan2005 19:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why are the Season 1 and Season 10 titles in bold?

Is there any reason as to why it's like this? - Zone46 16:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

The WikiProject List of Television Episodes board is in transition of converting the "old" templates to the new template which features the titles in bold. The person who started with Seasons 1 and 10 was just giving the page a head start. The entire page will be done shortly. Sfufan2005 19:54, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Color Code

Perhaps we should color code the episodes by season e/g season 8 purple season 9 green etc etc..


(220.101.173.133 08:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)).

[edit] Individual Episode Pages

Everyone of the episode pages needs work. There are no cites, extended plots, and information that is best left out all together. Whoever is monitoring this page and those pages should read this Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Television episodes. This is the policy created to establish guidelines for episode pages. If you do not have well referenced material try developing Seasonal pages until you do. Bignole 12:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bang The Cock episode

I deleted the "Bang The Cock" episode from the list, since no titles of episodes from the second half of season 10 has been announced. --Eric Ashford 22:44, 13 September 2006 (UTC)


[edit] 10 episodes that changed the world

At this time I don't have 7-1 but I can add them later. If someone wants to count this as a marathon I could use the episodes in links like the other marathons because I don't know how to do it.

Are descriptions after each of the episodes in this list necessary? Opinion based statements like "the most controversial episode" seem blatently out of place in Wikipedia, and none of the other lists have them. --Billdorr 21:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

What? Comedy Central is running the marathon. They chose the order and what episodes. Not any of us.

Someone should add the reasons why each episode changed the world. It was announced before each one. Pacman 16:41, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Season 2 Bonus Disc

I just made this change. I know for a fact that the bonus disc with the original pilot was available through Best Buy's website, since I own it. The link I provided should be enough proof (despite the fact that the link to Best Buy within it no longer works....). Although, I own Season 2 as it was originally released on Warner Bros., the page originally stated that the bonus disc "is included in some versions of the season 2 DVD set". Have more recent releases of Season 2 actually been released with the original pilot? Or did the person who originally wrote that have no idea what he/she was talking about?

Plus, should I upload a picture of the bonus disc as more proof?

[edit] 1888?

The second sentence of the article says: "The series has its roots in 1888..." I'm not sure what year it should be, but I'm pretty sure it's not 1888. 213.219.162.72 01:04, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


02:12, 4 February 2007 (UTC)The order of the episodes in season 6 needs to be rearranged 70.49.45.39 02:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Incomplete Episode List

When I was reading the episode list, I noticed that some of the episodes from earlier seasons were not listed. Doeay anyone know how to edit the page so that all of the episodes are added? I would use the web page http://www.tv.com/south-park/show/344/episode_listings.html?season=0&tag=season_dropdown;dropdown;11 - Thursday, February 15, 2007

[edit] Wrong Title for S06E13

On the official SP-Page this episode is called "The Return of the Lord of the Rings to the Two Towers". Here it's called "The Return of the Fellowship of the Rings to the Two Towers". Also the article-name for the episode itself is wrong. http://www.southparkstudios.com/show/display_episode.php?season=6&id1=613&id2=93

84.62.144.131 19:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Source on Season 11 first episode

Manbearpig strikes back? Is this the real air date for the next south park. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.108.141.101 (talk) 23:35, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] SP Navigation

Do the individual episode articles really need a South Park navigation bar at their ends when they already have a season episode list (with the subject episode bolded) at the top? --Wfaxon 08:21, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Probably not. It seems there's at least three different nav options, succession box, infobox links for each episode in the season, and the link to the list of episodes. Seems a bit over-kill to me. -- Ned Scott 08:28, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A Collection of Funny Episodes (February 2007)

What is this? There's no citation, and I can't find anything else about it. Doesn't look like an actual South Park thing. Comments please --Ssault 17:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

        ----This section was deleted. I suppose it just looked like someones personal collection. Ssault 00:31, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] "The Gauntlet" short absent from list

The South Park article notes:

Arguably, the first time the show satirized Scientology was in the short "The Gauntlet", which aired during the 2000 MTV Movie Awards. Though the short was primarily a Gladiator parody, with the characters fighting Russell Crowe in the Roman Coliseum, it included "John Travolta and the Church of Scientology" arriving in a spaceship to defeat Crowe and attempt to recruit the boys into Scientology. Travolta, along with his fellow Scientologists, was depicted as he appeared in the infamous Battlefield Earth.[1]

I noticed that this short is not included in the list of episodes, and would like to see it added. I remember seeing this when it aired, and it was very funny.

The short is also discussed in the Los Angeles New Times article "Sympathy for the Devil" from Sept. 27, 2001, regarding Tory Christman:

Last year, Church of Scientology operatives received an alarming tip: During the upcoming 2000 MTV Movie Awards scheduled for June 8, a short South Park film parodying Battlefield Earth would feature the character Cartman wiping his ass with a copy of L. Ron Hubbard's sacred text, Dianetics.

The tip was erroneous. Cartman would actually be wiping his ass with a Scientology personality test.[2][3][4][5]

I wanted to bring up for discussion before attempting to add to the article. Thanks! --Alienlifeformz 00:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is the description from SouthParkStuff.com http://www.southparkstuff.com/specials/the_gauntlet_-_mtv_movie_awards_2000/

"The Gauntlet" - MTV Movie Awards 2000

The boys and Timmy are sent to meet their doom as gladiators in Imperial Rome in this "Gladiator" parody from the 2000 MTV Movie Awards

Here is the script: http://www.southparkstuff.com/specials/the_gauntlet_-_mtv_movie_awards_2000/gauntlet_script/

Images: http://www.southparkstuff.com/specials/the_gauntlet_-_mtv_movie_awards_2000/gauntlet_images/

Video: http://www.southparkstuff.com/specials/the_gauntlet_-_mtv_movie_awards_2000/gauntlet_videos/

Thanks! --Alienlifeformz 00:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] SEASON PAGES

Why on earth have all these pages been redirected? I spent weeks working on them until some selfish person decides to merge some well written work! We need separate pages for seasons because more background info can be added. May the person who did this please come forward and explain their actions - and trust me I am not as angry as I could be! Mr. Garrison (talk contribs)

[edit] Summary table needs some fixes

I think that List_of_South_Park_episodes#Summary table needs some fixes:

  • The Season's 1 brown color is placed in wrong cell.
  • There are some free spaces between rows (se4-se5, se5-se6, se7-se8, se8-se9, se9-se10, se10-11). Why are they separated and others not?

Visor 23:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)