Talk:List of Smallville episodes
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[edit] Kryptonsite screenshots
I'm thinking we should replace the Kryptonsite screenshots with caps that don't have an advertisement. The painful thing is that the best way to replace screencaps is to remove them, and then let someone replace them. - Peregrine Fisher 07:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- Well, they've given permission to use them, but if you can find a replacement that looks the same without the watermark that's cool. I could probably go through the seasons on my computer (when I go back home Monday) and recapture each of the images and just upload them as newer versions. What do you think abou that? BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 15:28, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
- That would be good. Another way is to remove them, and let people replace them when they see an empty slot, if you're feeling lazy (like i am). - Peregrine Fisher 14:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've been busy with school and work, but this is my spring break. If you want to go ahead and remove them you can. I'll try and get on recapturing them all before the end of the week. BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 14:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good. - Peregrine Fisher 14:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- I've been busy with school and work, but this is my spring break. If you want to go ahead and remove them you can. I'll try and get on recapturing them all before the end of the week. BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 14:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- That would be good. Another way is to remove them, and let people replace them when they see an empty slot, if you're feeling lazy (like i am). - Peregrine Fisher 14:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Size
We need to do something about the size of this article. It's 71kb, which creates quite a bit of lag. I think we should look to some other "Lists of episodes" pages for a format that will help trim the size down. The Simpsons have 18 seasons and are at 63kb (not to mention a Featured List). We could move Smallville's DVD information over here, and follow the Simpsons' format for the listing of the episodes. BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 13:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Copying the Simpsons format is acceptable. List of South Park episodes is also a featured list, and it didn't go the condensing route, though. - Peregrine Fisher 14:22, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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- It probably should be condensed. I'm basing it on the fact that I get some lag on my state computer, and their internet and processors are better than my personal computer (which isn't slow itself). I'm working on a simpson-esque format in a sandbox, but I think I'm going to try and add a couple columns to the tables, because I think we can get away with a bit more information than they can. I think it's the images and the paragraph plots that are bogging it down. You provided a South Park link and they have the same size as us, but far more seasons than we do. Also, I think if we follow The Simpsons, we can also solve that other problem we had about a list page and a season page coexisting, because The Simpsons lists all the eps in their basic form which is just a pure list of data (title, number date), and provides links to both season pages and episode pages which give more detail in each succession. BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 14:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Sounds good. - Peregrine Fisher 14:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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Do you know where to get the Prod. Code for Smallville? I'm sure I could eventually find out, but if you or someone else knows off hand that would save a lot of time. BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 14:58, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Ok I finished the new format. The colors can change is people want them to, I was trying to match them to the DVD boxset colors for each season. User:Bignole/List of Smallville BIGNOLE (Question?) (What I do) 21:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
- Need some feedback on it, so that I now how to tweak it. The page is rather large for a show that only has 6 seasons under its belt. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 19:45, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- User:Bignole/List of Smallville looks pretty good, but it doesn't fit on my screen width-wise. I think we should leave out writer/director since they'll be one click away. The colors are pretty good, except the top bar is a bit too dark, at least on my old monitor. If it looks good on yours, I guess keep it. List of Third Watch episodes and List of The Simpsons episodes do it pretty well, I think, so you might look at those. I don't suppose you've changed your mind about individual episode pages? Anyways, I say go for it. - Peregrine Fisher 19:59, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I'll add it in, and then, just like "copyediting" others can tweak the colors. As I said, I was going for the color (on the main bar) of the DVDs. As for wide, I have it wider just for spacing, i can tweak that. The only reason I'd like to keep the Writer/Director is because it's more "technical" data that a plot would be. I'll try and shrink them, and if it's not thin enough you can adjust it after I move them. The adjusting is at the top of each table (width=1000px), which I'm going to put down to 950px and you tell me how it is. As for the individual episode pages. If you can get them to look like this article or this article, then I have no problem with it. I think we can link to the episodes in the season pages, and if we find enough information on a particular article to warrant a new page, that's great. But there is no behind the scenes information on any of those ep pages that exist currently. It's probably something you'd have to by those Smallville Season Companions" to find, but I'm sure that 70-75% of them will never have enough information citable information. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 20:13, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Michael and Mike Rohl
I was just wondering if the directors of Fanatic(episode 516) - Mike Rohl and of Arrow(episode 604)- Michael Rohl, are the two different people or if the name Michael has been shortened to Mike? eZio 07:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
- Nope, same people. I'll change it to "Michael". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 11:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Smallville and season pages
Frankly they look *disgusting*, they're in violation of Wikipedia's Manual of Style and also add limitations to the amount of information that could be contained. I intend (as season one is already done) to begin creating individual pages soon. Addendum: Where have the gorram screen captures gone? Matthew 20:56, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- Why don't you start working on the Season pages. Your gross disregard for working with others is beginning to bother me. Look at the MOS for television articles. Individual episode pages are the last step, and that is after they have been broken into season pages. Individual episode pages that contain nothing but unsources trivia do not meet wikipedia's requirements for creating an article. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I assume you mean "unsourced trivia"? I'll put your message down to blissful ignorance, because if you knew me you would know I'm quite the trivia eradicator. You shouldn't speak of what you do not know. Peace out, Matthew 21:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
- I know that you are upset that I changed the format of the page. You had a time to voice your opinion of that, as I came here months ago with this. It's now a featured list, and no one but you expressed this type of opinion about the page, or that it violates any MOS. It doesn't add limitations to the article, it limits excessive size. The article was twice the size it is now, for a show that had a 1/3 of the seasons that The Simpsons have, or half of the ones that South Park has. It's now divided up into a list of the episodes, coupled with just date-esque information, and is then broken down by seasons. If you can provide information for individual episode articles that look like Pilot (House) or Aquaman (TV program), then that's fine. But episode articles that are nothing but plots and trivia do not meet article requirements. If you are such a "trivia eradicator", then why do all those articles still have such information? Try sprucing up what's there before you go running out and creating 100 episode articles. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- More ignorance (tsk), I actually like the layout - very much, thanks. Also, those articles are in bad shape as nobody has bothered to fix them up - perhaps I'll do it when I feel the desire. I'll happily put this list up for review though if you insert user submitted sources again. Matthew 21:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I know that you are upset that I changed the format of the page. You had a time to voice your opinion of that, as I came here months ago with this. It's now a featured list, and no one but you expressed this type of opinion about the page, or that it violates any MOS. It doesn't add limitations to the article, it limits excessive size. The article was twice the size it is now, for a show that had a 1/3 of the seasons that The Simpsons have, or half of the ones that South Park has. It's now divided up into a list of the episodes, coupled with just date-esque information, and is then broken down by seasons. If you can provide information for individual episode articles that look like Pilot (House) or Aquaman (TV program), then that's fine. But episode articles that are nothing but plots and trivia do not meet article requirements. If you are such a "trivia eradicator", then why do all those articles still have such information? Try sprucing up what's there before you go running out and creating 100 episode articles. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 21:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- I assume you mean "unsourced trivia"? I'll put your message down to blissful ignorance, because if you knew me you would know I'm quite the trivia eradicator. You shouldn't speak of what you do not know. Peace out, Matthew 21:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC).
