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Heyy!! Sirs! All the persons that affirm that Jennifer Lopez is not a Puerto Rican and that all that born in the States are not Puerto Ricans has to consider the following facts too. Following the previuos Line of argument no one can say I am Puerto Rican because the Puerto Rican citizenship does not exist. Then someone could think: "the list of Famous Puerto Ricans is really a List of Puerto Rican Americans". Other Point is that the previous point is not accurate the american Citizenship granted by the Jones law is a statutory citizenship (Please see the Task force report of Bush administration recently published), Puerto Ricans that born in the island could lost their citizenship if United States of America relinquish the covenant with the commonwealth of Puerto Rico and force them to be independent. Puerto Ricans born in the island can not be President of the United States of America neither to vote for the US Presidency from the island of PR. So, That citizenship make Puerto Ricans a second class citizens of USA. This line of Argument gives ligth to this matter, here is the fact that there is a hidden not active Puerto Rican Citizenship that could be activated If United States decides that. The American citizenship is Statutory, then, If United States Relinquish his covenant and his sovereingty over Puerto Rico, The statutory citizenship will cease because according to the Task force report of Bush administration recently published said that statutory citizenship follows The US Sovereingty. If that happens and everything is posible in this world, The hidden Puerto Rican Citizenship will be activated. So, this could lead us to the situation that if United states reliquish the covenant and make PR independent some Puerto Ricans could get a dual Citizenship as Colombian-americans and others. In this way a Puerto Rican could be an American at the same time by means of dual citizenship wich is legal and constitutional. Then, we can conclude that Being Puerto Rican is a matter of a feeling in the hearts of Many Puerto Rican Americans in United States. I can perceive two reasons why a Puerto Rican-american could consider himself a Puerto Rican. Because he loves Puerto Rico and its culture or because some americans discriminates against them and make them feel inferiors Forcing them to Identify themselves as Puerto Ricans. This is not an ugly matter to avoid to be discussed is a historical fact. This happened with the indians that the americans rejected and declare them a separate nation inside their Nation. This is happening with Blacks-americans that even after been killed culturally you never accept them completely. This is a shamefull fact that has to be spoken to make sure that future generations of americans accept minorities completely and integrates them fully and without any hypocresy by all our american brothers. amen. by: Martin R. Rodriguez, born in Brooklyn NY but he grew up in Manatí Puerto Rico. See the 2005 article of Yale-New Haven Teachers Institute Parallel Studies of the Afro-American and Puerto Rican Experience in America by Juanita W. William, see Los Angeles Times, December 26, 1901, Please investigate How English language was Forced By USA during the first decades of the American rulership in the schools of Puerto Rico, Please investigate what happened in the case of Puerto Rican 65th Infantry Army Regiment during The Korean War, Please Investigate How Those soldiers were convicted but later exhonerated By United States of America. Please Investigate the case of Juan Melendez condemned to the death penalty and released recently or See my personal experience hired with false promises, harrassed, discriminated and discharge after 4 months of employment with no reason given.later, My employer Tekla Inc. located at 600 Town Park Lane Suite 175 Kennesaw GA 30144, put me in Cobb County jail, In the state of Georgia with charges of Criminal trespassing Remain without drinking water, without the right to call or write an e-mail to my family in Puerto Rico and My wife in Colombia South America and without the right to be provided with gloves when I volunteered to clean the toilets in Cobb county Jail of the state of Georgia. All of this because I delivered back a software I rented to my employer and requested the Cheaper lease offer Tekla Inc. is giving to others or My Job Back. I am a handicap and only can do the Engineering work I was trained in college, I was needing money to survive and I need to bring my wife to USA, I have to keep the promise I gave to clients because they gave me subcontract engineering drafting Jobs. Now I do not have clients, I have criminal charges to face, I do not have Money to survive and my wife is awaiting for her immigrant visa that will expire in march. That visa will not be granted if I do not have work. I have a court date in February 10, 2006. I can not accept work before that date and I can not accept work after that date if I am in Jail again or covicted. If I accept Federal aid in any way My wife visa will not be granted. I am a new kind of cherokee indian, God Bless America.


Does being born in Puerto Rico make you Puerto Rican? I don't know if Joaquin Phoenix qualifies. RickK 05:05, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Does being born in New York make you a New Yorker? Does being born in the U.S. make you an American? Yes it does, by birth. If a Russian couple moved to the U.S. and had a child here, their child would be an American citizen with all the rights a citizen has even if the parents aren't American. Being born in Puerto Rico makes Joaquin Phoenix a Puerto Rican by birth. He has never stated otherwise. Besides Puerto Rico is an American territory and the people there are American citizens by birth. This is not about qualifieing as if it were a sporting event, this is about what states his birth certificate which is that he was born in San Juan, Puerto Rico. I would appreciate it if RickK would stop making an issue about Joaquin Phoenix already!User:Marine 69-71

I believe that RickK is referring to "Puerto Rican" as an ethnicity, rather than as a relationship to a location. In fact, I would say that if your requirement for being on this list is being born in Puerto Rico, you'd have to take off a lot of these entries, including Jennifer Lopez and Freddie Prinze Jr.. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 16:21, Aug 4, 2004 (UTC)

Joaquin Phoenix is Puerto Rican "by Birth", he lived his first six years among Puerto Ricans. Jennifer Lopez is by ethnicity, such as Frank Sinatra was Italian-American. See Puerto Rican.

I suggest we drop this subject before it becomes an ugly, racial matter. I do believe wikipedia is Non point of view, and racial, ugly matter fall under point of view. Like I said before, if a Russian parents-child, for example, is born in the United States, that doesnt make him/her less Russian than Lenin, nor less American than George Washington

User:Marine 69-71.


I've taken out Mark Spitz after an email query. I can't find any reference to a Puerto Rican mother - everything I've read so far has just said "Jewish-American". I'm heading for the library sometime over the next two days - so I'll see if I can find anything there too. If anyone else finds verification, perhaps they would replace it -- sannse (talk) 11:39, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Elizabeth Vargas has just been selected as one of the late Peter Jennings' successors as co-anchor of ABC's evening news. Her listing and bio should be altered accordingly.

Additional names have been included which clearly comply with the requirements that they are "persons who are known to a large number of people and is not based on the extent of their popularity. Neither is the list viewed from the context of the present. Their fame could be brief, what matters is that they were well-known during the peak of their popularity.". For example, before Governors were elected, Resident Commissioners were the top elected officials of the land and would not be elected if not "known to a large number of people". Likewise, Senate presidents are seen as second only to Governors or Resident Commissioners in recognition factor, especially when they are not of the same party as the executive, such as was the case of Hernandez Colon (1969), Hernandez Agosto (1981) and McClintock (2005).

Governors have been placed in alphabetical order. Previously, current Gov. Anibal Acevedo-Vila appeared last, based on his last surname "Vila", when the correct way to order alphabetically is based on the paternal surname, which in Spanish appears before the maternal surname. Thus, Gov. Acevedo-Vila should appear ahead of all others, based on his surname "Acevedo", followed by Gov. Calderon, and so forth. Someone should verify the correct order of the other lists on this page.


[edit] Alphabetization

I agree with the above editor. We need to alphabetize this entry. Smylere Snape 20:18, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that Waleska Martinez, the only Puerto Rican casaulty aboard United Flight 93 can't be included in this list. Her sister was present at Flight 93's film premiere, Puerto Rican flag present attached to a photo of her late sister, who was portrayed in the film by actress Liza Colon-Zayas. There are many murder victims on this list. Waleska was a murder victim also if you look at it. Terrorism is a form of murder.

In regards to Joaquin Phoenix, unlike Luis Miguel, Joaquin has never denied his Puerto Rican origins. He speaks Spanish, was named after a family friend in San Juan who cared for the family during their residency in Puerto Rico, and even on the "Gladiator" DVD, the young actor portraying the boy in the movie has a video diary where he spoke to Joaquin and Joaquin told the boy of his years and early upbringing in Puerto Rico. I admire him for this. Unlike many actors like Andres Garcia who denies he is Dominican, Joaquin never forgot his roots. Give the man credit. He is extremely talented and has great morals in regards to animal rights and other important social issues. XLR8TION

Waleska Martinez's notability or lack thereof may be answered witha question? What great contribution did she make in her life for us to commemorate? Joelito (talk) 03:50, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

What did David Sanes do to get recognize? He just got murdered by a bomb and died. Other murder victims here also were murdered. What's your point? She and the remainder of that flight crew can be considered matyrs. They stood upa nd fought with every last breath they had to prevent a bigges disaster from happening. many Flight 93 victims already have Wikipedia articles. Why not Waleska? Why not include her on the list? XLR8TION

Per Wikipedia:Notability (people) for deceased people :"Has the person made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in the specific field?" I still believe the answer regardin Waleska is no. On the other hand, David Sanes was the unwilling catalyst for the removal of the U.S. Navy from Vieques. Joelito (talk) 18:57, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Flight 93 was used as a catalyst for the US attack and invasion of Afghanistan. It is also a symbol in the present administration's war on terrorism. Hence, the heroes of that flight were utilized as samples of Americans defending their freedom. Does that justify being considered a member of the list for being a brave and historic passenger on an ill-fated voyage. XLR8TION

I still believe that her being on that flight lacks the notability necessary for inclusion in this list because she did not make a "contribution that is part of the enduring historical record". Joelito (talk) 03:19, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New Categories/Classification

I see that with many other Hispanic/Latino nationalities on Wikipedia that diplomats are included in the general list. IT was just announced that President Bush nominated a Puerto Rican to be the nation's Ambassador to the nations of Mauritius and the Seychelles, both located in the Indian Ocean. Once approved by the Senate, he is becomes the second Puerto Rican to serve as an ambassador in this current administration (the other is the Ambassador to the Dominican Republic). There have been many Puerto Rican ambassadors in the past and when I have tried to add them to the list someone removes it. I hereby want to introduce the creation of a "diplomats" section in the list. If not, I would like to include these names in the "other" section. --XLR8TION 02:39, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Puerto Rican immigrant artists

Can we add actor/producer Axel Anderson to this list. Although born in Germany and is of German-Jewish ancestry, he immigrated to Puerto Rico over 50 years ago and considers himself, much like Tony Croatto as Puerto Rican regardless when he was born. Axel's entry on the IMDb is http://imdb.com/name/nm0026388/ .--XLR8TION 02:48, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

Fair use images may not be used for decorative purposes. They may only be used to illustrate a specific point within the text, when it is absolutely neccessary. If you wish to readd the public domain images - please double check their PD status first, as many of them were of people born after 1923, and therefore not covered by the PD-US tags they were labelled with. ed g2s • talk 18:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I would further like to encourage editors here to, in the future, not revert image cleanup. It is policy to keep unfree content to a minimum. It is necessary that all unfree media needs to give its source, information on the copyright holder, and have a fair use rationale. Please be more cautious about copyright issues going forward. Jkelly 18:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Please note that those who continue reverting after copyright policy has been explained are liable to be blocked from editing. Fair use images are permissible, but only when the image itself is the subject of discussion. If this article does not discuss anything, it cannot have any fair use images. Johnleemk | Talk 19:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Come on, don't get your panties in a bunch over a simple dispute. There is no need to block or threaten to block anyone over such a triviality. Policy has been explained and that is it. I must, however, mention that if this were clearly defined in WP:FUC instead of the present ambiguous "decorative" statement then most of this discussions could be avoided. Joelito (talk) 19:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Editors of other lists have been rather recalcitrant over adherence to policy. And multiple reverts of an edit preventing Wikipedia from getting in legal trouble clearly calls for a formal warning. Johnleemk | Talk 21:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

I have removed all of "PD" pictures as a precaution - as it seems some of them have been incorrectly tagged and may not be free. These should be re-added as and when you check them. ed g2s • talk 19:46, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

  • I can truly understand the deletion of "celebrity" images until furthur notice. However, the deletion of the flag and the Coat of arms was uncalled for. Every other list of people include their flags and CoA. I know that this is not an anti-Puerto Rican thing, I mean, we're very civilized here in the Pedia but, unless every single list of people in the Pedia has their flags and coat of arms removed I would personally feel offended. Tony the Marine 22:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
The flag is fine. The coat-of-arms is actually problematic, believe it or not. Individual artists hold copyright on specific illustrations of coats-of-arms, despite their heraldic descriptions typically being in the public domain. The satellite image of the island has no source for it being in the public domain, as well. Jkelly 22:54, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I have added the NASA domain where the satellite picture is hosted. Joelito (talk) 23:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Great, thank you. Jkelly 23:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
commons:Category:People of Puerto Rico is rather disappointing. We do have some freely-licensed images at commons:Category:Jennifer Lopez, however. Jkelly 22:57, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I can't just about understand using the flag to help visually identify the country - but the coat of arms and satellite map are information that really just belong on Puerto Rico. They have no relevance to this article. ed g2s • talk 09:19, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I suppose they could be used to prettify the article. Still, you're right, there is no relevance. Anyway, it doesn't matter, as long as the images are free. If they're free, we can do whatever the hell we want with them. :p Johnleemk | Talk 16:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Well, within the guidelines of unfree images. But within the guidelines of using relevant material etc. they perhaps should be removed. ed g2s • talk 16:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Please discontinue your campaign of removing images that are PD and of free use. When the Jennifer Lopez image was removed, that was understandable. Then User ed g2s comes along and removes every image and states "These should be re-added as and when you check them." Finally, he removes our "Coat of Arms" and the image of our "island" becuase according to him "they "perhaps" should be removed". What's next? Is he going to remove our flag and replace it with another? Please stop! These images are of free use and are revelant to those on the list. I'm sure that the Puerto Rican community in Wikipedia will be grateful. Tony the Marine 23:23, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

How is a satellite photo of Puerto Rico relevant to listing Puerto Rican people? Just because an image is free, doesn't mean we should use it. ed g2s • talk 14:53, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Frankly I do not care if you regard it as relevant or not. Tony and I maintain this list so please allow us to keep the free images we desire. Believe it or not such a triviality makes our jobs a little easier. Joelito (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Please do not make the mistake that you own any articles on Wikipedia, despite being major contributors. ed g2s • talk 20:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree with the list's caretakers. There is no need to remove anything that can be utilized by a national group in its' self-identity. If so, do we have to remove the map of Cyprus that appears on that nation's national flag? Do we remove the Union Jack from Hawaii's flag because the U.S. broke all ties with the United Kingdom when it declared its' independence? Do we remove the flags of Malyasia, Liberia, and Uruguay because they are clearly derived from the U.S. flag's design? Let's not take political correctiveness too far! If you have never lived onthe island or are of Puerto Rican ancestry, then you do not understand the cultural significance of the flag, coat of arms, and the map outline of the island has to Puerto Ricans all over the world. Please stop removing these images and concentrate on proofreading other articles that require our supervision. --XLR8TION 16:23, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The hundreds of Puerto Ricans listed either came or their desendents came from our beloved island whose public domain image we have. Readers will read in "awe" when they see how many talented people whose contributions to society in general have been many and that they came from this small island. That these people represent this small but, wonderful island isn't revelant enough is beyond believe. Continued deletion of this image will be considered in "bad faith" and an insult to our people in general. Tony the Marine 22:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
So you're admitting to pushing a POV? ed g2s • talk 20:53, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Diplomats

As User: XLR8TION stated in my User page:[[1]], I also agree that there are too many people listed in the "List of Puerto Ricans" who may have had only there 15 minutes of fame (He's added some himself). However, let me make myself clear, I don't believe that "just" because a person was a diplomat automatically makes you a notable or famous Puerto Rican, which is what the "list" is supposed to be about. Yes, Horacio Rivero and Teodoro MoscosoJr. are notable but, the first one as a militaryman and the second as a local Puerto Rican politician whose "Operation Bootstrap" helped the economy of the island. They did "not" become notable as diplomats. I understand that it would be nice to "show" the world that the island has the ability to sustain diplomatic relations with other countries as XLR8TION wants to point out but, the "List of Puerto Ricans" is supposed to be about Puerto Ricans who have made some type of contribution to society in general or that for some reason have gained fame or notability. Wikipedia is not a political forum where we must "show" the world our ability to become an independent nation. My advice to XLR8TION, if you do not agree with someones action, discuss it first and maybe a comprimise may be reached. Tony the Marine 00:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


  • Answer these questions. What contributions to world politics have Cesar Benito Cabrera, Gabriel Guerra-Mondragon, Luis Guinot and Hans Hertell made that made them notable or famous? O.K., so they were ambassadors to some country but, what were their accomplishments as Ambassadors representing the United States? Tony the Marine 13:45, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

There are many many names on that list of people who are teachers who never made a headline or contributed to the island in one way or another. There are models who show their rears and breasts and yet they are celebrated. The list, like the island should be democratic and not managed by solely two people. That is just like the PNP writing another party's description on a ballot. Just like the "Grito de Lares" survey I feel this topic should be put to a vote and also that list should be cleaned out of insignificant people who really are no ones. It is time to comb through the list and do a clean up of these names so that real, inspirational names can be added. Furthermore, diplomats are the faces of a country to a nation. Hence, these diplomats represented 280 million citizens to a national government. Admiral Rivero was the last US Ambassador to present his credentials to Franco (before the restoration of democracy in Spain). Guerra-Mondragan helped the US and Chile (the South America nation to sign one with the U.S.) sign a free trade agreement. Hertell helped Puerto Rico sign an agreement on repatriation of illegal Dominican migrants that arrived in the island. This is far way much more important than Taina's breast implants or many little-known merengue singers on the list. Please keep the list as is and start a discussion instead of deletion. Inclusion, not exclusion should be the list's theme. Cubans-Americans and other Latino groups do include U.S. ambassadors. Why not Puerto Ricans? A breakdancer, a reggaeton singer who belittles women in his videos and a terrorist all are worthy to make the list an not an ambassador (they have only been six Puerto Rican ambassadors in history). What contributions has Jose Padilla (Al-Qaeda terrorist) made to the island? The only thing he has brought is shame and disgrace. Lets this list be inspirational to theworld, and most importantly to the young Puerto Rican youth out there looking for role models.--XLR8TION 14:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)


    • I agree that the list should be cleaned out and that guidelines as to notability should be implamented. Now we are starting to see eye to eye. Now, if you woukld have posted that "Hertell helped Puerto Rico sign an agreement on repatriation of illegal Dominican migrants that arrived in the island" and that "Guerra-Mondragan helped the US and Chile (the South America nation to sign one with the U.S.) sign a free trade agreement" after there names on the list then we all would have had an idea of their accomplishments and this would inspire others to read or research the person. See what I mean? However, if you only just post that the person was an ambassador to such and such country, then the reader may ask himself "So what?". XLR8TION, I admire your loyalty to the Puerto Rican related subjects and I think that it would be a great idea if you wrote something about these people, even if it is a "stub", just to get things going.

One thing that I must comment and that is, that even though I agree that some "singers" or "models" do not deserve to be on the "list", some criminals do. This is because dispite the fact that they have brought shame to our image, people like Padilla have atracted international news coverage and therefore become notable. Others, such as "Correa Cotto" and "Toňo Bicicleta" have not only become notable becuase of the media coverage but, have also in some cases become part of Puerto Rican legend and lore.

We as members of the PR community have to set up parameters and guidelines for the list to keep it clean. See Talk:[2] Tony the Marine 18:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I will write stubs on these diplomats as well for a few more people including a great author and anthropologist, Migene Gonzalez-Wippler. I did an article for Armando Riesco (actor) and he saw it and thanked me for a great job and article. Give me some time and I will give you great articles. Many of these diplomats are also big businessmen in the USA and Latin America. --XLR8TION 20:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Criminals and Outlaws: famous or infamous?

Although Bicicleta, Ojeda and Cotto have cultural and historical importance to belong in this list, I really question the importance of the Zodiac Copycat Heriberto Seda to be on it.

[edit] References on main list page

Please refrain from putting references on the main page. All references relating to someone's ancestry are put on the appropriate article not on the main list. Who is this Victoria Justice and why does a child star from Nickelodeon has and must have a reference on the main list when they are far more important individuals than her who don't have references of their Puerto Rican culture on this list. If anyone is going to be on this list they are Puerto Rican and the facts will be checked by the page's monitors. --XLR8TION 05:07, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

No, this is incorrect. We do not rely on citations on other pages, nor can one Wikipedia article be used to source another article. With these X or X-American pages, you need explicit sources on the page. See any X-American page out there. Wiki lists do not differ in any way from Wiki articles. Both have to be sourced. I could stick an "unsourced" tag on the top of this page, as has been done to other pages, but I don't want to do that, because I plan to eventually source all the names. I don't see why you wish to impede this process. Mad Jack 05:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

This is not impeding nothing. The list has remained reference list for as long as I know it. All references should be placed in the main article or else this already long list will get longer and much more complexed. I have checked numerous lists and they do not have references for a child star on their main list page. The page's main users will agree with me here in keeping the list in order and especially concised. --XLR8TION 05:15, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't think you understand. It doesn't matter what several users agree or do not agree on. Every list and article on Wikipedia needs sources. I can stick an "unsourced" tag on this page right now and you can not remove it, because, indeed, this list is not sourced. Not a single name on this list has a source right by the name that says that person is a Puerto Rican. Start with, say, List of French Americans and keep going through all the X-American pages. They all have sources. Other lists need sources. It's as simple as that. I don't know why that bothers you. If the list becomes too big that's not a problem. We can split it off to separate lists, i.e. List of Puerto Rican actors, etc. This list is big enough at the moment anyway, so that probably needs to be done. Mad Jack 05:17, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Again, like you said the list is long, therefore all means should be taken to keep it shorter and concised. Please place the appropriate reference in the subject's article and not on the main list. In regard to splitting the list, first a discussion should be started before any major cosmetic changes to the list are taken. This is the first step to an agreeable solution in making sure that the list organized in a way that would be hard to comprehend or keep track of. --XLR8TION 05:24, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

What is the problem with splitting off the lists into smaller lists? This list is huge as is. It's bigger than any list out there. It desperately needs to be split off (See how this was done in, say, List of Jewish Americans). As for sources, again, you simply can't source one Wikipedia article with another Wikipedia article! Mad Jack 05:28, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


It would be wise to discuss than to perform cosmetic changes. That is why this page is for. A handful of opinions would be helpful in order to determine is any changes are required. Please wait to others respons in order to gather a general consensus on what should or needs to be done. --XLR8TION 05:31, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, as for splitting off the page, sure. But there is no question that this, like all other lists, needs to be sourced. Every Wiki article does, and it cannot be done by "look at the other page to source this page". I'm willing to do the sourcing myself, if you don't want to. Mad Jack 05:32, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


That would be great but as you can see from the articles you have written or edited, all the references are on the main subject page. Anyone on this list will be verified so there is no need to put references on the main list. You have done a great job from the articles you have written and I commend you on a great job there. --XLR8TION 05:45, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, we can't just say "all the refences are there so go look there". There is no reason not to source the page. The thing is - this page clearly needs to be split into smaller sub-sections. It's exceeding the size limit as is. And if we do split it - which we should - there's no reason at all not to source the separate pages - if anything, it adds more credibility to the list. Mad Jack 05:51, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pablo Casals

I was surprised to see he was not on the list. Any reason? 68.113.104.169 20:26, 19 August 2006 (UTC)Alarican

  • You're right! Hsi name used to be on the list, but you always find some idiot that will come along and delete his or some elses named without any justification. The name has been added once more. Tony the Marine 21:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Víctor Mario Pérez

Puerto Rico's foremost basketball coach, and one of its most famous players in the 40's and the 50's

http://www.endi.com/noticia/baloncesto/deportes/se_nos_fue_el_maestro/123352

[edit] Lorraine Cortés Vázquez

Appointed by Governor-elect Elliot Spitzer as New York's next Secretary of State; she previously was a Governmental Affairs VP with Cablevision, and preciously served as Chief of Staff to former New York State Assemblyman Roberto Ramírez

http://www.endi.com/noticia/puerto_rico_hoy/noticias/feminas__boricuas__al_gabinete/133316 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.50.30.121 (talk) 06:39, 24 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Add the name of Sixto Lezcano

Request add the name of Sixto Lezcano Currás to list. Major League Baseball Star of the 70's and 80's and a hero to many who have played this game we call baseball.66.50.18.75 18:40, 7 January 2007 (UTC)Pierre Curras.pfcn2

[edit] Puerto Rican First Ladies

To the people involved, The proper forum for the discussion in regard of the "first ladies of Puerto Rico" would be the talk page of the "List of Puerto Ricans".

I would like to state the following. I believe that only those who have made notable contributions to society in general, be either positive or negative, and that are either Puerto Ricans, Puerto Rican descent or have adopted Puerto Rico as their homeland should be in the list. These should be personal accomplishments which have given these people a certain degree of fame.

A person is not famous or notable just because she was a "First Lady" unless that person's personal accomplishments has been notable. For example: Former first ladies Betty Ford]] is notable because she established a renowned rehab. center and Hillary Clinton because she became a Senator and is running for president. These ladies can be "listed" as famous Americans, yet what did Julia Dent Grant accomplish besides being a first lady? It would fine to have Mrs. Grant's name in a "List of First Ladies", but not in a "List of famous Americans".

I suggest that one of the persons involved in this discussion create a "List of Puerto Rican First Ladies" and list these ladies there.

Take this as an example, I created the article Puerto Rican recipients of the Distinguished Service Cross. There I have listed the fourteen Puerto Ricans who were awarded the second highest military decoration of the United States. Only one of these men merits to be in the list of "Famous Puerto Ricans" and that is Modesto Cartagena because he is the most decorated Hispanic soldier in history. Tony the Marine 19:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Please Do Not Delete this Page!!!

As a Puerto Rican, born on the island, raised in the states since the age of 2, I consider myself Puerto Rican first OR Puerto Rican-American? Like many people whose ancestors come from other countries still consider themselves African-American, Italian-American, Chinese-American etc.... This list is useful, probably mostly to us Puerto Ricans to see what 'our kind' has accomplished throughout history. I think for purposes of the list someone needs to define the term Puerto Rican as an ethnicity or just a place of birth. Commonly I think people believe it as an ethnicity thus the J. Phoenix comments arise. Perhaps keep it in terms of ethnicity and add a header famous persons born on the island or something to that affect. --Terwills 23:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)T.S.T. Insert non-formatted text here

[edit] Luis Muñoz Rivera

Luis Muñoz Rivera is the name of two prominent Puerto Ricans who should appear on the list in their own right. The first one, who died in 1916, was the island's Resident Commissioner at the time of his death, the highest elected official since the Governor was appointed by the President, not elected by the people. A founder of a political party and the person most responsible for having American citizenship conferred by Congress on the residents of Puerto Rico months after his death, his July 17 birthday is an island-wide holiday on the island, a distinction reserved only for him, José De Diego )April 16) and José Celso Barbosa (July 27). He was also donb Luis Muñoz Marín's father, and Victoria Muñoz Mendoza's grandfather. Someone mutilated the listing that identified him as Resident Commissioner.

The second one, born in 1916, the same year the first one died, was a senator, the top aide to doña Fela, the last surviving member of Puerto Rico's Constitutional Convention, chairman emeritus of Puerto Rico's Civil Rights Commission, and a prominewnt attorney. His death last year merited a state funeral at the Capitol attended by Governor Acevedo Vilá, Senate President MacClintock and Speaker Aponte, an honor extended to few Puerto Ricans in history. Someone erased his name from the list.

Both wrongs should be righted.

[edit] Miguel A. García Méndez

I have reinserted García Méndez' name in the list of prominent politicians, at the same time that I have not attempted to remove multiple names that have less of a reason to be on the list, because it is preferable to err on the inclusiveness side. He was the youngest Speaker ever, has major highways and other public works named after him, was the last leader of the Statehood Republican Party, founded Westernbank and one of the island's great orators. 200.50.30.18 03:23, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Lindsay Daen

As Tony Croatto and others, Lindsay Daen was not born in Puerto Rico but made Puerto Rico his home for most of his adult life. His contributions to Puerto Rico art, as attested by the Editorial de la UPR 2006 book, Lindsay Daen, The Man and the Sculpture, are immesurable. Among his best known works are the La Rogativa sculpture in Old San Juan (1971) and the Juan Bobo y la Canasta (1998). As Efraín Barradas wrote in the El Nuevo Día review of the book on March 25, 2007, "...tanto le debemos en la historia de nuestro arte a este escultor australiano, que debe estar inscrito ya en nuestro cánon artístico."

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